Re: intranet blogging from emacs

Re: intranet blogging from emacs

[Jim Burton]

Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> writes:

> I am exploring lightweight options for creating an (intranet) blog of my team members.
> What are the options for pushing out from emacs to a blog-publish share location?
>

There are several blogging modes, referred to here
http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/WebloggerMode , presuming you have a
server on which to install one of the apps that these modes work with. I
find posting to my wordpress site from emacs-w3m preferable to any of
these though. Everything works (i.e. no javascript required) and of
course then I can not only post but do any admin stuff on the site. It's
a bit slow, due to the server and wp, but it's OK. wp is very easy to
set up, can't comment on any other.
 
-- 
Jim Burton
jim@sdf-eu.org

Re: intranet blogging from emacs

[rustom]

On Mar 21, 7:14 pm, Jim Burton <j...@sdf-eu.org> wrote:
> There are several blogging modes, referred to herehttp://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/WebloggerMode, presuming you have a
> server on which to install one of the apps that these modes work with. I
> find posting to my wordpress site from emacs-w3m preferable to any of
> these though.

Sorry to ask a dumb question but whats w3m and emacs-w3m?
I tried googling and looking around the emacswiki but cant make sense
of what it is or is supposed to do.

> Everything works (i.e. no javascript required) and of
> course then I can not only post but do any admin stuff on the site. It's
> a bit slow, due to the server and wp, but it's OK. wp is very easy to
> set up, can't comment on any other.

I am guessing that the setup you are recommending is like this:
Setup WP on the (blog) server and emacs-w3m on the desktops that will
push to it. Right?

Re: intranet blogging from emacs

[Pascal J. Bourguignon]

rustom <rustompmody@gmail.com> writes:

> On Mar 21, 7:14 pm, Jim Burton <j...@sdf-eu.org> wrote:
>> There are several blogging modes, referred to herehttp://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/WebloggerMode, presuming you have a
>> server on which to install one of the apps that these modes work with. I
>> find posting to my wordpress site from emacs-w3m preferable to any of
>> these though.
>
> Sorry to ask a dumb question but whats w3m and emacs-w3m?
> I tried googling and looking around the emacswiki but cant make sense
> of what it is or is supposed to do.

w3m is an external web browser.  emacs-w3m interfaces with w3m to
display web pages in an emacs buffer.


-- 
__Pascal Bourguignon__

Re: intranet blogging from emacs

[Xah Lee]

On Mar 21, 5:05 am, Rustom Mody <rustompm...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I am exploring lightweight options for creating an (intranet) blog of my
> team members.
> What are the options for pushing out from emacs to a blog-publish share
> location?

here's some info might be useful to you:

• e-blog by Mikey Coulson works great with google blog (blogger).

• LjUpdate package by Edward O'Connor works fantastic for livejournal.

Others i've tried: blogger.el and WebloggerMode, does not work for me.

Also, emacspeak supposed to work with blogger too, but i've read from
blogs recently that it's also problematic.

For some detail about these:

• A Emacs Frustration (blogger package)
  http://xahlee.org/UnixResource_dir/writ/emacs_blogger_package_pain.html

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depending on what your intranet blog is...

w3m is primarily a text-based browser like lynx, launched from command
line.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/W3m
Emacs has a interface to it, called w3m, so that you can browse web in
emacs.

from my experience, this combination is actually some 5 times slower
than full featured web browsers.  (my w3m has image loading turned
off, while my web browser has images on, and js and css on.)

today, js is almost a requirement for most major sites. Without js
support, w3 can't use many sites.

personally i use w3m occasionally for my work involving dictionary
lookup. Overall, i don't recommend it, because you have spend hours or
days to install, learn to use it, and on the whole the benefit isn't
great. (e.g. compared to a browser, some 5 times slower, no js, ugly
display, and often badly formed, and so on)

as other suggested, you could just use w3m to update your blogs thru
the standard web interface. However, i've not tried this.

In fact, these days i simply use full featured browser to update my
blogger blogs. I find it faster, more convenient, in general, then
trying to do it within emacs. Typically, one button press switch me to
browser, few clicks with the interface gets me to the blog update
page, one button switch me to emacs, write, switch, paste, click to
update. Repeat if necessary, or use any of the editing or admin
features in the blog interface, which usually won't be there in any
integrated emacs blog uploading modes.

part of the reason that web interface works better in general for me,
besides above reasons, is that usually my blog writing involves
complicated html (such as css marked syntax coloring of code
snippets), and sometimes plain text mixed with the particular mark-
down and html (such as links).  The simplified mark-up lang used for
each blog site are different (and there's no one standard or
predominant one). The emacs blog modes typically support plain text
only. Any extra features available on the blog, such as the extensive
admin and blog archive editing or comment management etc provided by
google's blogger, is not there.

  Xah
∑ http://xahlee.org/

☄

Re: intranet blogging from emacs

[Jason Rumney]

On Mar 22, 8:26 am, Xah Lee <xah...@gmail.com> wrote:

> here's some info might be useful to you:
>
> • e-blog by Mikey Coulson works great with google blog (blogger).
>
> • LjUpdate package by Edward O'Connor works fantastic for livejournal.
>
> Others i've tried: blogger.el and WebloggerMode, does not work for me.
>
> Also, emacspeak supposed to work with blogger too, but i've read from
> blogs recently that it's also problematic.
>
> For some detail about these:
>
> • A Emacs Frustration (blogger package)

Part of the problem with these is that the APIs of the blog websites
has not remained constant. So you have blogger.el, which was written
for blogger.com when it used Atom 0.3, and e-blog which was written
for Atom 1.0 (possibly with Google extensions). Hopefully now that
Atom is an RFC specified protocol, any future changes will be
backwards compatible so changes needed to keep e-blog working should
be minimal.

Re: intranet blogging from emacs

[Torsten Senf]

Xah Lee <xahlee@gmail.com> writes:

> On Mar 21, 5:05 am, Rustom Mody <rustompm...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> I am exploring lightweight options for creating an (intranet) blog of my
>> team members.
>> What are the options for pushing out from emacs to a blog-publish share
>> location?
>
> here's some info might be useful to you:
>
> • e-blog by Mikey Coulson works great with google blog (blogger).
>
> • LjUpdate package by Edward O'Connor works fantastic for livejournal.
>
> Others i've tried: blogger.el and WebloggerMode, does not work for me.
>
> Also, emacspeak supposed to work with blogger too, but i've read from
> blogs recently that it's also problematic.

Very interesting for me is the possibility to create a blog with Emacs
Muse an authoring and publishing environment for Emacs in combination
with PyBlosxom (http://mwolson.org/static/doc/muse.html#Blosxom).

With some shortcuts you can create an Blog Article and publish it to the
server. Markup is also possible and it is very customizable. Very nice!!


Greetings Torsten

intranet blogging from emacs

[Rustom Mody]

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I am exploring lightweight options for creating an (intranet) blog of my
team members.
What are the options for pushing out from emacs to a blog-publish share
location?

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