From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: jidanni@jidanni.org Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help,gmane.linux.debian.devel.emacsen Subject: Re: emacs on a text console - please help me overcome the shock Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2011 08:08:52 +0800 Message-ID: <87y5yloup7.fsf@jidanni.org> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1314058152 10489 80.91.229.12 (23 Aug 2011 00:09:12 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2011 00:09:12 +0000 (UTC) Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org To: rdiezmail-emacs@yahoo.de, 633652@bugs.debian.org, debian-emacsen@lists.debian.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Aug 23 02:09:07 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QveYE-0000kY-SM for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 23 Aug 2011 02:09:07 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:53128 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QveYD-0007my-2I for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 22 Aug 2011 20:09:05 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:33589) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QveY7-0007mc-N2 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 22 Aug 2011 20:09:00 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QveY6-000704-9x for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 22 Aug 2011 20:08:59 -0400 Original-Received: from caiajhbdccah.dreamhost.com ([208.97.132.207]:46879 helo=homiemail-a2.g.dreamhost.com) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QveY6-0006zj-2Z for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 22 Aug 2011 20:08:58 -0400 Original-Received: from homiemail-a2.g.dreamhost.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by homiemail-a2.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A3EE280071; Mon, 22 Aug 2011 17:08:56 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=jidanni.org; h=from:to:cc:subject :references:date:message-id:mime-version:content-type; q=dns; s= jidanni.org; b=iMgLdcaPnxjzT0PzekV2S2aAW2aThkXIQiAyZmzru/AAE86WU ejSC7mmjpd0fEzW9gw2eDtQxOIj3E5sLZB8pCgHiR6X8Vh/0OvedksQ+zUpLOj5p MuDHGikJBGttnqSCynkp7ut6ribrYMHmAk5pkrOl7BxDMd9vwjJ2I29rFI= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=jidanni.org; h=from:to:cc :subject:references:date:message-id:mime-version:content-type; s=jidanni.org; bh=aHpE1797ayY3OJ/YRe2KOZRDszg=; b=lVhJhFdYX0KqK MBaaKUMvKayWZn6p21yrizSW2y9QH6DBMGjKorZuoE3qv8c4D4zxwJXWrMOqKRo6 vMGvqwxqJo/Ru6UJmOAlS/IReP8iwWnjB8Pce3LyCOBepDufwzygke4Yw/7Aapz2 hWuKYKC4f2V8OYid6oqGSkiEIdE6Ek= Original-Received: from jidanni.org (218-163-1-251.dynamic.hinet.net [218.163.1.251]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: jidanni@jidanni.org) by homiemail-a2.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 91252280070; Mon, 22 Aug 2011 17:08:55 -0700 (PDT) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 208.97.132.207 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:82014 gmane.linux.debian.devel.emacsen:2692 Archived-At: >>>>> "r" == rdiezmail-emacs writes: r> Hi all: r> I'm a "normal" GUI computer user, I've used things like Delphi, r> Eclipse, gedit, Notepad++ and Visual Studio all my life. I've also r> been using emacs for some time under Ubuntu and under Windows. It r> took me a while to set it up with "standard" behaviour, like r> shift+arrows for text selection and so on, I found the cua mode to be r> helpful. Every now and then, I even click on the menus with the r> mouse. However, I've written some simple, copy-paste lisp too, so I'm r> not just a standard mouse user. In fact, my .emacs file has grown r> much more than I ever thought it would. 8-) r> Now I have to work on a remote server via SSH, and the connection is r> not fast enough to tunnel X Windows over it, so I have to switch to r> console mode with "emacs -nw". r> The console mode has been a shock. There is no mouse at all. I cannot r> navigate the menus as usual, menu-bar-open is weird and unfriendly. r> But, worst of all, some key combinations do not work well. Same for me, but that's life here on Debian, even on ones very own laptop, no SSH involved, and even if you are root, http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=633652