From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: YUE Daian Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Question mail package Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2019 21:27:01 +0800 Message-ID: <87y2xai89m.fsf@home.i-did-not-set--mail-host-address--so-tickle-me> References: <87tv7z5l10.fsf@bobnewell.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="257730"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Oct 24 15:52:45 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1iNdXg-0014uL-GC for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 24 Oct 2019 15:52:44 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:43206 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1iNdXe-0005sc-KH for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 24 Oct 2019 09:52:42 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:57097) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1iNd92-0002hP-Hq for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 24 Oct 2019 09:27:17 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1iNd91-0008Mh-Ch for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 24 Oct 2019 09:27:16 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-pg1-x52d.google.com ([2607:f8b0:4864:20::52d]:38755) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1iNd91-0008MC-4z for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 24 Oct 2019 09:27:15 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-pg1-x52d.google.com with SMTP id w3so14253638pgt.5 for ; Thu, 24 Oct 2019 06:27:14 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=from:to:subject:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:mime-version; bh=8tvFTyUtQPTe8L6u99HgXtLePs6WrCS4UiCIVMiXVvg=; b=cj60MNpTKbB+CBDhm4O8YMfGbLnKR824WfQzERCsCC3TBSASWmFuGWC/kTPjeu/vOO KEGuGYwtMXwz3kpQqhMsCSQm3f2v/pCZEGFvNz7e2jx3HioiGrS+U3I0HPQlbCRy0TnK avs7T5QNtCx0d7oZ2SgOVuxMoo4tCZ3tmVHZXFg7uqBtq0ygzt9Pd4SGcWKV9U+nYxx0 R/wlMybyFoUOLQArJuEJ0hte01KiaQ/ToWH6iNqf3jiIUsyzHxGpCub1Tm7mBt6StUnt amSveoBByQK8MztCqa0bQVw+ZhOZs7J//X1JUolzskPt5NCePczXmXXBihWXlZBFhwm3 OEHw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:mime-version; bh=8tvFTyUtQPTe8L6u99HgXtLePs6WrCS4UiCIVMiXVvg=; b=tT2dqC4wkCEcutSDTcC6r01xPBh+kXjSz8QlC0Bx2igCz8BxyWTm3AwQr+Go7GTPC5 6w7dzCY0oWz0jlzciNdtLF+PU1pY4XMZ3LCw4qlmRdxDU+2Uz+JRxDeznYa7HXcSctZ9 BRrTWgf4B3r8WP0RXNdJMngVokbTtb9OjENWCN4LBI5FlMxvXlopTfAg2Dn6Gly2KI7Y I5zYw2WJRzpuP2HOSInccZMZWvRTtYNSavmCVUc97ati2jDGbgXlDwYAQiI050/h6/Lv Nmh7klrDHPGQIDDCqXC4YFRcTpGrGaKZWHmn/GjIg/YgccCetygwU6zifdlm8t+qwL28 DxWg== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAUpbrhQ5suUSUEBBf/LzmPGQlPRBTKjpMmur77282NbXoZneFwC +Ti5qaVLnzIjWB5A8m1jA3Oj7G8MGdU= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqw3Wlnm5t06xqj8qtUpJvPWeuibwSKBSRPsBYjhL2xlUfwyLTnFTLaGlmwAczgfxV9uwEUP2A== X-Received: by 2002:aa7:9f47:: with SMTP id h7mr17847027pfr.44.1571923633383; Thu, 24 Oct 2019 06:27:13 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from localhost ([47.52.30.246]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id e16sm25735584pgt.68.2019.10.24.06.27.11 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Thu, 24 Oct 2019 06:27:12 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <87tv7z5l10.fsf@bobnewell.net> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:4864:20::52d X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:121712 Archived-At: On 2019-10-23 09:17, Bob Newell wrote: > IMHO it is a better idea to make your configurations evolve along with > your experience with Emacs, instead of trying to get everything "set" > before sailing. > > This is excellent advice and well worth noting. You don't have > to eat the whole elephant at once. A minimal config for Gnus, > as was presented elsewhere in this thread, is probably 30 > lines or so. > > It took me 10 years to get up to 1,000 lines ... that seems > about right. > > -- > Bob Newell > Honolulu, Hawai`i > - Via Gnus/BBDB/Org/Emacs/Linux To be honest I said it because I used to get everything "prepared" before really using it. When I was in bachelor I spent all my spare time within a week reading Emacs's documentation. I read almost everything. It was not a good idea. As for Gnus, I do not think 30 lines will give you a satisfying experience compared with other alternatives. I tried. Maybe it was just me. But it has so many concepts related to good old new groups, instead of mails. I do not think it is a good idea to recommend it to beginners. Anyway, you have the choices.