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Dieter Wilhelm's message of "Fri, 10 Dec 2021 19:16:07 +0100") Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAAEkAAAATAgMAAAChCMjeAAAABGdBTUEAALGPC/xhBQAAACBj SFJNAAB6JgAAgIQAAPoAAACA6AAAdTAAAOpgAAA6mAAAF3CculE8AAAACVBMVEX/zAABCWP///8I RHjYAAAAAWJLR0QCZgt8ZAAAAAlwSFlzAAALEwAACxMBAJqcGAAAAAd0SU1FB+UFEAk5BvqS634A AAAbSURBVBjTY2BgCA1hYA0FAxDDgQEERsXoIAYA2F9Eb3cpB+AAAAAldEVYdGRhdGU6Y3JlYXRl ADIwMjEtMDUtMTZUMTA6NTY6MTcrMDE6MDCh/kkpAAAAJXRFWHRkYXRlOm1vZGlmeQAyMDIxLTA1 LTE2VDA5OjU3OjA2KzAxOjAwTyZ6HwAAAABJRU5ErkJggg== X-Host-Lookup-Failed: Reverse DNS lookup failed for 2a02:6b8:0:801:2::111 (failed) Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2a02:6b8:0:801:2::111; envelope-from=m43cap@yandex.com; helo=forward501j.mail.yandex.net X-Spam_score_int: -19 X-Spam_score: -2.0 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.0 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RDNS_NONE=0.793, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:134942 Archived-At: >>>>> H Dieter Wilhelm writes: > Colin Baxter =F0=9F=98=BA writes: >>>>>>> H Dieter Wilhelm writes: >>=20 >> > Eduardo Ochs writes: >> The highlighted >> stars are there to help the people who like to >> use the keys >> 1..9 to navigate info manuals. >>=20 >> > You nailed it. >>=20 >> > Note: Blather to come ;-) >>=20 >> > A far fetched analogy is writing dates in a form like 20211210. >> > For me it's hard to discern whether the date starts by the year >> > and then where month or days begin. I'm annoyed when some > >> colleagues do not use the visually supporting form: 2021-12-10 > >> (actually this form is recommended by standard ISO 8601). >>=20 >> Don't forget about dates like 20211210T175343 in gnus :-) > Sorry, where do you see that?! Maybe I configured above format > away and forgot about it. I think gnus info suggests #+begin_src emacs-lisp (setq gnus-group-line-format "%M\%S\%p\%P\%5y: %(%-40,40g%) %d\n") #+end_src for nndiary. It's my very poor joke. Best wishes,