* el-get question
@ 2011-03-16 9:58 henry atting
2011-03-16 14:19 ` Ted Zlatanov
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From: henry atting @ 2011-03-16 9:58 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: help-gnu-emacs
I try to make el-get work with emacs but did not succeed so
far. I never used a `package manager` for emacs - and if the
oh so simple el-get will not reveal its hidden simplicity I
most probably never will.
I started with orgmode from git which was pulled correctly
as far as I can see but was never loaded after restarting emacs.
Emacs sticks to the builtin version. As far as I understand
it el-get should load the orgmode version under its control
automatically...
It would really appreciate it if anybody can provide me with an
example which causes el-get to pull orgmode from git for example
to ~/emacs_plus and load it automatically afterwards.
henry
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* Re: el-get question
2011-03-16 9:58 el-get question henry atting
@ 2011-03-16 14:19 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-03-16 16:38 ` henry atting
0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Ted Zlatanov @ 2011-03-16 14:19 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: help-gnu-emacs
On Wed, 16 Mar 2011 10:58:12 +0100 henry atting <nsmp_02@online.de> wrote:
ha> I try to make el-get work with emacs but did not succeed so
ha> far. I never used a `package manager` for emacs - and if the
ha> oh so simple el-get will not reveal its hidden simplicity I
ha> most probably never will.
ha> I started with orgmode from git which was pulled correctly
ha> as far as I can see but was never loaded after restarting emacs.
ha> Emacs sticks to the builtin version. As far as I understand
ha> it el-get should load the orgmode version under its control
ha> automatically...
ha> It would really appreciate it if anybody can provide me with an
ha> example which causes el-get to pull orgmode from git for example
ha> to ~/emacs_plus and load it automatically afterwards.
You may want to post to the el-get development mailing list (also
available on nntp+news.gmane.org:gmane.emacs.el-get.devel).
Ted
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* Re: el-get question
2011-03-16 14:19 ` Ted Zlatanov
@ 2011-03-16 16:38 ` henry atting
2011-03-16 18:11 ` Ted Zlatanov
0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: henry atting @ 2011-03-16 16:38 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: help-gnu-emacs
Am 16.03.2011 15:19, schrieb Ted Zlatanov:
> On Wed, 16 Mar 2011 10:58:12 +0100 henry atting <nsmp_02@online.de> wrote:
>
> ha> I try to make el-get work with emacs but did not succeed so
> ha> far. I never used a `package manager` for emacs - and if the
> ha> oh so simple el-get will not reveal its hidden simplicity I
> ha> most probably never will.
>
> ha> I started with orgmode from git which was pulled correctly
> ha> as far as I can see but was never loaded after restarting emacs.
> ha> Emacs sticks to the builtin version. As far as I understand
> ha> it el-get should load the orgmode version under its control
> ha> automatically...
>
> ha> It would really appreciate it if anybody can provide me with an
> ha> example which causes el-get to pull orgmode from git for example
> ha> to ~/emacs_plus and load it automatically afterwards.
>
> You may want to post to the el-get development mailing list (also
> available on nntp+news.gmane.org:gmane.emacs.el-get.devel).
>
Thanks! With some effort I got it working now with orgmode from git; -
okay, it's not bad. Having said that I find it's too much work to do.
In my opinion a `git pull` to obtain the current orgmode version and
adding the directory to the load path is far less time consuming. So
most probably I will refrain from using el-get.
henry
--
http://literaturlatenight.de
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* Re: el-get question
2011-03-16 16:38 ` henry atting
@ 2011-03-16 18:11 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-03-17 7:01 ` henry atting
0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Ted Zlatanov @ 2011-03-16 18:11 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: help-gnu-emacs
On Wed, 16 Mar 2011 17:38:11 +0100 henry atting <nsmp_02@online.de> wrote:
ha> Thanks! With some effort I got it working now with orgmode from git; -
ha> okay, it's not bad. Having said that I find it's too much work to do.
ha> In my opinion a `git pull` to obtain the current orgmode version and
ha> adding the directory to the load path is far less time consuming. So
ha> most probably I will refrain from using el-get.
I use el-get for the built-in recipes, but here are two Git-based
recipes mixed in with some built-in ones. I prefer leaving emacs-w3m
uncompiled, in case you're wondering about the commented-out build prop.
(el-get 'wait (setq
el-get-sources
'(
(:name emacs_w3m
:type git
:url "https://github.com/sjatkinson/emacs-w3m.git"
:module "emacs-w3m"
;;:build `("autoconf" ("./configure" ,(concat "--with-emacs=" el-get-emacs)) "make")
:build '("")
:info "doc"
:features w3m)
(:name zencoding-mode
:type git
:url "https://github.com/rooney/zencoding"
:module "zencoding-mode"
:build '("make")
:features zencoding-mode)
bbdb csv htmlize markdown-mode pg session tc)))
I also use package.el:
(setq package-archives '(("ELPA" . "http://tromey.com/elpa/")
("marmalade" . "http://marmalade-repo.org/packages/")
("gnu" . "http://elpa.gnu.org/packages/")))
...which may fit your needs as well, though el-get definitely handles
Git pulls better. What may interest you is that the GNU ELPA has the
daily org-mode build, which you can see at
http://elpa.gnu.org/packages/
so if using the daily build suits you, you may be happy just using that
through the `package-list-packages' interface.
Ted
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2011-03-16 18:11 ` Ted Zlatanov
@ 2011-03-17 7:01 ` henry atting
2011-03-17 19:44 ` Ted Zlatanov
0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: henry atting @ 2011-03-17 7:01 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: help-gnu-emacs
Am 16.03.2011 19:11, schrieb Ted Zlatanov:
> On Wed, 16 Mar 2011 17:38:11 +0100 henry atting <nsmp_02@online.de> wrote:
>
> ha> Thanks! With some effort I got it working now with orgmode from git; -
> ha> okay, it's not bad. Having said that I find it's too much work to do.
> ha> In my opinion a `git pull` to obtain the current orgmode version and
> ha> adding the directory to the load path is far less time consuming. So
> ha> most probably I will refrain from using el-get.
>
> I use el-get for the built-in recipes, but here are two Git-based
> recipes mixed in with some built-in ones. I prefer leaving emacs-w3m
> uncompiled, in case you're wondering about the commented-out build prop.
>
> (el-get 'wait (setq
> el-get-sources
> '(
> (:name emacs_w3m
> :type git
> :url "https://github.com/sjatkinson/emacs-w3m.git"
> :module "emacs-w3m"
> ;;:build `("autoconf" ("./configure" ,(concat "--with-emacs=" el-get-emacs)) "make")
> :build '("")
> :info "doc"
> :features w3m)
> (:name zencoding-mode
> :type git
> :url "https://github.com/rooney/zencoding"
> :module "zencoding-mode"
> :build '("make")
> :features zencoding-mode)
> bbdb csv htmlize markdown-mode pg session tc)))
>
> I also use package.el:
>
> (setq package-archives '(("ELPA" . "http://tromey.com/elpa/")
> ("marmalade" . "http://marmalade-repo.org/packages/")
> ("gnu" . "http://elpa.gnu.org/packages/")))
>
> ...which may fit your needs as well, though el-get definitely handles
> Git pulls better. What may interest you is that the GNU ELPA has the
> daily org-mode build, which you can see at
>
> http://elpa.gnu.org/packages/
>
> so if using the daily build suits you, you may be happy just using that
> through the `package-list-packages' interface.
Thanks again! I now have these lines for the latest orgmode which works
pretty well
(setq el-get-sources
'(
...
(:name org-mode
;; :build ("make clean" "make")
:after (lambda ()
(setq load-path (remove "~/rechner/emacs-trunk/lisp/org/"
load-path))
))
))
I found two or three threads on the web where people ran into the same
problems like me. One problem is the load path. If I e.g. install
`dired+` with el-get-install where is it afterwards? Why can't I load it
with load-library?
Anyway, I am using emacs more than 5 years now without some package
helper. To update modes like orgmode which I pull from git I have a
little script which updates all at once. The single *.el files I put in
a directory and generate autoloads. That's it.
I think I am happy knowing that there are ways to manage elisp code and
that they might work...
henry
--
http://literaturlatenight.de
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2011-03-17 7:01 ` henry atting
@ 2011-03-17 19:44 ` Ted Zlatanov
0 siblings, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Ted Zlatanov @ 2011-03-17 19:44 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: help-gnu-emacs
On Thu, 17 Mar 2011 08:01:27 +0100 henry atting <nsmp_02@online.de> wrote:
ha> Thanks again! I now have these lines for the latest orgmode which works
ha> pretty well
ha> (setq el-get-sources
ha> '(
ha> ...
ha> (:name org-mode
ha> ;; :build ("make clean" "make")
ha> :after (lambda ()
ha> (setq load-path (remove "~/rechner/emacs-trunk/lisp/org/"
ha> load-path))
ha> ))
ha> ))
I'm glad you found the right recipe.
ha> I found two or three threads on the web where people ran into the same
ha> problems like me. One problem is the load path. If I e.g. install
ha> `dired+` with el-get-install where is it afterwards? Why can't I load it
ha> with load-library?
Ask the el-get developers, I started using it recently too :)
ha> Anyway, I am using emacs more than 5 years now without some package
ha> helper. To update modes like orgmode which I pull from git I have a
ha> little script which updates all at once. The single *.el files I put in
ha> a directory and generate autoloads. That's it.
I used to do that, until the script was 200 lines and using Mercurial,
Git, CVS, Subversion, and hacked curl chains. It worked, sure, but I
didn't *like* to run it. That's when I said "enough."
Ted
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