From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Emanuel Berg Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: how to determine if to reply by CC as well Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2014 23:53:05 +0200 Organization: Aioe.org NNTP Server Message-ID: <87wqa6hjge.fsf@debian.uxu> References: <8af43eeb-8822-4b82-88f3-a31c29276bcf@googlegroups.com> <87bnrknhve.fsf@debian.uxu> <7zvbpr8qxe.fsf@example.com> <87sikv9cal.fsf_-_@debian.uxu> <87ha1azyrj.fsf@debian.uxu> <7zoavin7e5.fsf@example.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1408312533 26971 80.91.229.3 (17 Aug 2014 21:55:33 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2014 21:55:33 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Aug 17 23:55:26 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1XJ8QA-0000lh-Hb for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 17 Aug 2014 23:55:26 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:40388 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XJ8QA-00022z-1G for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 17 Aug 2014 17:55:26 -0400 Original-Path: usenet.stanford.edu!goblin1!goblin2!goblin.stu.neva.ru!aioe.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help Original-Lines: 58 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: P0uMB9BthHuWo8+BJXB4Mw.user.speranza.aioe.org Original-X-Complaints-To: abuse@aioe.org User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3 (gnu/linux) X-Notice: Filtered by postfilter v. 0.8.2 Cancel-Lock: sha1:wJyMCwmLjZLZnALNylyBmbB4vK0= Mail-Copies-To: never Original-Xref: usenet.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:206980 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:99257 Archived-At: David Hume writes: >> Perhaps the OP is a real programmer, and those don't >> use either menus or the mouse. ... > > Firefox without a mouse. You can use Firefox without a mouse. There is "search-for-links-only" key and then just type away. Likewise shortcuts to show the bookmarks, mark the URL field, iterate the tabs, and so on. But it is an uphill battle. They don't expect people to do that so it is far from as refined as it could be. Second it is not programmable in the sense w3m is on Emacs, with just reevaluating a defun to get the new (hopefully desired) behavior. But there is a plugin system which perhaps (?) can be used in that sense. But the biggest problem isn't in the client software. It can be, and is, great. The problem is those webpages with zero structure and literally thousands of links everywhere. They just expect people to not be bothered with that as they use huge monitors with fonts so tiny they are difficult to even make out. And they use different fonts (and sizes), and the location on the screen to express purpose (in a bad way, but still). When this is rendered in a text-based browser, or when some guy tries to use it without a mouse and scrollwheel, it stinks even more. So there is only so much the end software can do about that. People will have to upgrade their taste as well as their clients... and stay out of those websites. > What fun! Maybe not like taking Ecstacy and going to the circus. But it is possible. But even so I recommend using Emacs for plain-text and/or keyboard-only browsing. That way it'll just be all in your hands if you want to change and extend the user interface, which is likely... >> Again: Is there any way to deduct from the post if >> the poster isn't on Usenet, and isn't part of the >> list, in what case a CC makes sense? (By "the post" >> I mean what I see, or can see, as a Gnus newsgroup >> follower, in the header fields.) > > Looking at the headers in the OP article, it says > received by SMTP, so I guess it was an email. Yes, but is he on the list or not? If he is, he doesn't need a CC. If he isn't, he might be unaware there were people trying to help him. -- underground experts united