From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Emanuel Berg Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: launch a program in an arbitrary frame Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2015 21:26:47 +0200 Message-ID: <87wpxx8dxk.fsf@nl106-137-147.student.uu.se> References: <8xxwpxyducd.fsf@village.keycorner.org> <8xxr3o5ea34.fsf@village.keycorner.org> <8xxmvyte6ei.fsf@village.keycorner.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1437247733 4885 80.91.229.3 (18 Jul 2015 19:28:53 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2015 19:28:53 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Jul 18 21:28:45 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ZGXmv-0007Rj-3b for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 18 Jul 2015 21:28:45 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:49479 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZGXmu-0005e9-Bt for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 18 Jul 2015 15:28:44 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:39878) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZGXmc-0005d2-R2 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 18 Jul 2015 15:28:30 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZGXmZ-0002qe-2k for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 18 Jul 2015 15:28:26 -0400 Original-Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:49283) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZGXmY-0002qW-SC for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 18 Jul 2015 15:28:22 -0400 Original-Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ZGXmX-0007GU-CQ for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 18 Jul 2015 21:28:21 +0200 Original-Received: from nl106-137-156.student.uu.se ([130.243.137.156]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 18 Jul 2015 21:28:21 +0200 Original-Received: from embe8573 by nl106-137-156.student.uu.se with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 18 Jul 2015 21:28:21 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-Lines: 25 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: nl106-137-156.student.uu.se Mail-Copies-To: never User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.4 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:n9M21RZxTN6BnkYA12oB1C0/kAo= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 80.91.229.3 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:105816 Archived-At: Hikaru Ichijyo writes: > But you're right -- by today's standards, it's > a very thin application. On my system, it launches > in about one second, even with all the stuff I've > got in my ~/.emacs. Everything is nearly instant, > and if anything ever causes system-wide problems, > you can be sure it's never Emacs. > > It's gone from being regarded as a monstrosity to > a model citizen desktop application, all just > because everything else got go bloated > in comparison. This is all confusing! It is better to not use words like "thin", "bloated" etc. What does it mean? My Emacs binary, /usr/bin/emacs24-nox, is 13625528 bytes, or ~13M. The emacs24 package in the Debian repos is, uncompressed, 17.8 M. The software itself is very powerful and feature-rich. -- underground experts united http://user.it.uu.se/~embe8573