From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: On the rate of change [was: Another Emacs incompatibilty] Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2020 16:21:41 +0200 Message-ID: <87wo1x5p56.fsf@ebih.ebihd> References: <86r1s648dc.fsf@shell.gmplib.org> <20200817081232.GA13459@tuxteam.de> Reply-To: Emanuel Berg Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="10364"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.1 (gnu/linux) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Cancel-Lock: sha1:ml0EXaQ1rcwl7CJ8aqpuwhRSc3U= Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Aug 17 16:22:17 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1k7g1h-0002c5-3e for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 17 Aug 2020 16:22:17 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:57652 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1k7g1g-0003qb-6J for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 17 Aug 2020 10:22:16 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:36506) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1k7g1H-0003gg-EQ for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 17 Aug 2020 10:21:51 -0400 Original-Received: from static.214.254.202.116.clients.your-server.de ([116.202.254.214]:46860 helo=ciao.gmane.io) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1k7g1F-00045g-VQ for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 17 Aug 2020 10:21:51 -0400 Original-Received: from list by ciao.gmane.io with local (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1k7g1C-00023B-Dd for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 17 Aug 2020 16:21:46 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Mail-Copies-To: never Received-SPF: pass client-ip=116.202.254.214; envelope-from=geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; helo=ciao.gmane.io X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: First seen = 2020/08/17 10:21:47 X-ACL-Warn: Detected OS = Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] [fuzzy] X-Spam_score_int: -8 X-Spam_score: -0.9 X-Spam_bar: / X-Spam_report: (-0.9 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=1, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:123682 Archived-At: tomas wrote: > It doesn't move, and then it's dead (heck even > /bin/ls had to take ACLs into account at some point > and SELinux at another). It does move too much, and > then people flee in all directions (remember Jamie > Zawinski's CADT?). Well, no one is contemplating re-writing Emacs, right? I don't know if the rate of change is really the/a problem. Can't you expand without breaking what is there already? Isn't that what's been happening, 99% of the time? As for breaking what's there already, if it doesn't make sense, just break it. If that breaks code that relies on it as well, sure, that has to be changed as well. But that's only a good thing! If it _does_ make sense, leave it as it is, no doubt. Who decides what makes sense and what doesn't? People with skill and experience. -- underground experts united http://user.it.uu.se/~embe8573 https://dataswamp.org/~incal