From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Ozhap Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Gnus: caching message headers? Date: Sun, 13 Sep 2020 04:38:34 +0530 Message-ID: <87wo0ytwy5.fsf@Kittu.i-did-not-set--mail-host-address--so-tickle-me> References: <87imclnqsz.fsf@Kittu.i-did-not-set--mail-host-address--so-tickle-me> <87ft7ngbrv.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="37978"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: wgreenhouse@tilde.club, help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org To: Eric Abrahamsen Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Sep 13 01:10:05 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kHEej-0009l0-LB for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 13 Sep 2020 01:10:05 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:47402 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kHEei-0004QI-NK for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 12 Sep 2020 19:10:04 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:51602) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kHEde-0003lu-8a for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 12 Sep 2020 19:08:58 -0400 Original-Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.17.22]:37593) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kHEdc-0007Hm-Di for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 12 Sep 2020 19:08:58 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=gmx.net; s=badeba3b8450; t=1599952120; bh=MaNK5bM6EMkMGuxA59oBIrESdgDYJSFKRnZwGtyuQ98=; h=X-UI-Sender-Class:From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:Date; b=HO2c2mEWJknfWRhvW/n8M7Rewm7ydkuqXyW0NIdgMMLOQpanpOVgTrcnMn3tojy+V uMcr3dzZEtCoGzUUo/Dren+8BCodOWrW0l4G3U+XhptvFiGSOCuRZwpPxzjs3X1bMK B4cvle733Wi0OT3kig2M18ImnVm22D25GIG6qWTM= X-UI-Sender-Class: 01bb95c1-4bf8-414a-932a-4f6e2808ef9c Original-Received: from localhost ([59.94.230.151]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx104 [212.227.17.174]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 1M8ygY-1kCGY53kQg-0068vm; Sun, 13 Sep 2020 01:08:40 +0200 In-Reply-To: <87ft7ngbrv.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:YXRTZM33bsgSGGaRqYZDEMIr3PpdTz3z0xj44EjFrF52NPL9k+n HwueyX+o/fkZDA29E08kBrtC5zMQlBOQqMgz5nDB+j3UivA0QQX18uYA7s2nOiSSPw4tlHR 5zPGYJuIcJsOBfChO327X2S1RXuZAepi4xq8dl1yZ+sGxQFyr/2+ogtJS9FQ2PV1BFiqWJl 2kqfHqVH+TC86lcwumEzQ== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:xzvxvfYUc2E=:YqNKCcHyKgxIOUd7TI3ml5 Af/VohohbVS/lI9Lw2zN5siYHXYT0DG5Mv8EKp6CW0bWK4h/y0BRW3OKN63DVzZ+t+uK0MGs3 GzgJN1Dzwvq5uzZwL+tJ1W+6/39dNzzQ828gDnZUTOiyPh4g1DIu5S9hwiBBHjvhyvCzBuOiK eKJ+q5Dc/0GBBg3kuS8gLZSTWzUQrHY7oFQY7HdUBFuE2CtAO/pIqBKyoGA4gNrO6unnrW0PZ 7NrT/eb1tbcd3jCwxM5xwImfIewxlvSOgsFzvQUOko13oab6dac5gda5PDlktGTFc5GiOeajY oyCqfAQZqPvYMZCO/boDKZ9JzFy/vwGU1i1VRnkYlFSjhwNsRYmVgzc2YSnW7BMd0I2P9XpSX ltFUgu6gvHNORZWKIYrylJ8SC16duJPt0U+p39qmnY8AzDxAR0a0Rexad742674u1sLPkNOJ+ 86LEVGsAfI2xDSVbkPqPyNABQHJQ/qvO6bcc8WOMVSPzU/82ehanLnmB+uc1zAhuQbzA0sZN8 93dZZBGrLyxpvHT/zi0u5s9ZVvarSoELKb83bhgvPdwY9yUBYMp+pHDBnEciddvwmKSBxxw7D PWuxOuNM+beri0Xe7Kudc0dInPTWhlXFEOq+g2UUhBbQ8LK7/4AGxxaW4dqzv323rKox6o/Ii 9HqlBiGRgdReQLPGCAc3Flkn7w2oe9na9/aHd0dYGQw1xPCXM4nQby42rH7fAntRLbBkoO0Ba S3Z3xSizyvBJsZao7HmgZoQPRA/9wNDt+BFIJLtyGQrV4+q1u1HZuws5oHAWirQ+c08BrWJv Received-SPF: pass client-ip=212.227.17.22; envelope-from=ozhap@vollbio.de; helo=mout.gmx.net X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: First seen = 2020/09/12 19:08:54 X-ACL-Warn: Detected OS = Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Spam_score_int: -25 X-Spam_score: -2.6 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.6 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:124040 Archived-At: Eric Abrahamsen writes: > Ozhap writes: > >>>> =E2=80=9CIf I read an article while plugged, do they get entered into = the=20 >>>> Agent?=E2=80=9D >>>> >>>> *No*. If you want this behavior, add=20 >>>> =E2=80=98gnus-agent-fetch-selected-article=E2=80=99 to =E2=80=98gnus-s= elect-article-hook=E2=80=99. >> >>> That Info page could be more explicit that `gnus-agent-cache' means that >>> articles *will* be added to the agent as they are read. >> >> That's how it stands now, but in info '(gnus)Agent as Cache' it says: >> >> "..Gnus normally only downloads *headers* once, and stores them in the >> Agent" >> >> "Articles are *not* cached in the Agent by default though (that would >> potentially consume lots of disk space), but if you have *already >> downloaded an article into the Agent*, Gnus will not download the >> article from the server again but use the locally stored copy instead." >> >> I did some digging, and this behaviour was changed due to bug#8502 where >> Lars concludes (erroneously, on the face of it): >> >>> Let's see... caching... so if you're online (in an agentised group) >>> and select an article, you want the article to be saved in the Agent >>> directory? That sounds eminently reasonable, and I thought that was >>> supposed to happen, but I can't find any code for doing that... hm... >>> Nope. >> >> Ref: >> https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=3D8502 > > If I were you I would do this up as a proper bug report. Lars is now an > Emacs maintainer, so he'll be obliged to look at it :) > > One way or another there is a mismatch between documentation, > customization options, and actual observed behavior. I think if you can > make it clear what that mismatch is, we stand a good chance of getting > it fixed. Here you go. I think I did good :) https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=3D43356 -- Ozhap