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Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID d0dabcfce64da765af61e4ad8f1b5bd1; Sun, 22 Jan 2023 07:45:31 +0000 (UTC) In-Reply-To: (David Masterson's message of "Sat, 21 Jan 2023 19:08:26 -0800") X-Mailer: WebService/1.1.21096 mail.backend.jedi.jws.acl:role.jedi.acl.token.atz.jws.hermes.yahoo Received-SPF: pass client-ip=66.163.186.146; envelope-from=luangruo@yahoo.com; helo=sonic302-20.consmr.mail.ne1.yahoo.com X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:142500 Archived-At: David Masterson writes: > You're right. That was impertinent of me. While I used it in my work, I > was not on the development of Emacs. > > Wasn't the display engine derived from Lucid Emacs? No, it was written by the maintainer at the time for GNU Emacs 21. > True. BeOrg provides a bridge, but it's certainly not Emacs. The base > of Emacs seems keyboard-driven and you're not going to do a lot of > keyboarding on a smartphone (thus the GUI remark). I suggest you keep an eye on the feature/android branch over the next week or so.