From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Sebastian Tennant Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Is there any good website for emacs newbie? Date: Fri, 04 May 2007 22:51:17 +0300 Message-ID: <87vef8z7t6.fsf@moley.org> References: <1178245635.686969.214290@e65g2000hsc.googlegroups.com> <1178256690.626492.147500@y80g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> <1178307259.17374.55.camel@CASE> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1178308220 14114 80.91.229.12 (4 May 2007 19:50:20 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 4 May 2007 19:50:20 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri May 04 21:50:19 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1Hk3nB-0006sJ-Ez for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 04 May 2007 21:50:13 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Hk3tq-0003AZ-HX for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 04 May 2007 15:57:06 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Hk3tW-000332-H2 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 04 May 2007 15:56:46 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Hk3tU-0002wm-Sh for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 04 May 2007 15:56:46 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Hk3tU-0002wa-Na for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 04 May 2007 15:56:44 -0400 Original-Received: from main.gmane.org ([80.91.229.2] helo=ciao.gmane.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Hk3mo-0003Ii-Qi for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 04 May 2007 15:49:51 -0400 Original-Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1Hk3mm-0001t1-TF for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 04 May 2007 21:49:48 +0200 Original-Received: from 85.105.17.65 ([85.105.17.65]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 04 May 2007 21:49:48 +0200 Original-Received: from sebyte by 85.105.17.65 with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 04 May 2007 21:49:48 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 20 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 85.105.17.65 User-Agent: Gnus/5.110006 (No Gnus v0.6) Emacs/22.0.95 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:7/krQyYV9tCTPsVVYpxYt/DxX+s= X-detected-kernel: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:43694 Archived-At: Quoth William Case : > Lisp's mind twist into utter simplicity is only matched by the > simplicity of double entry bookkeeping. Funny, earlier in this thread I found myself saying 'it's so simple it hurts'. Don't you think we should be careful with the 'it's really simple' language beacuse it's definitely _not_ simple to a newcomer? I guess the point I'm really making isn't a point at all. I just want Lung to know that an understanding of the underlying simplicity is really, really, _really_ worth the effort. Sebastian P.S. That double-entry bookkeeping thing... How about an 'off-topic' thread so that we can all impress our bank managers ;-) Ah, those were the days...