From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: =?utf-8?Q?S=C3=A9bastien_Vauban?= Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: page-at-a-time output for M-x shell Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 15:12:25 +0200 Organization: Sebastien Vauban Message-ID: <87vdlwloau.fsf@mundaneum.com> References: <30a09a22-cd05-44b6-9b82-8a7e6c1796d5@x3g2000yqa.googlegroups.com> <7bf1883b-3184-487c-a5a4-675f3e117342@l2g2000vba.googlegroups.com> <85269090-af0d-43fa-bd49-da265cbac558@p23g2000vbl.googlegroups.com> <87fxd1iy86.fsf@iki.fi> <6a088d78-bfa1-46aa-bf87-6efe4d875739@n30g2000vba.googlegroups.com> <874oth3se0.fsf@iki.fi> <76036640-c499-482c-81c0-9e0cb325e96a@k26g2000vbp.googlegroups.com> <87r5wk3o87.fsf@iki.fi> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1247496577 21098 80.91.229.12 (13 Jul 2009 14:49:37 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 14:49:37 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs-mXXj517/zsQ@public.gmane.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org-mXXj517/zsQ@public.gmane.org Mon Jul 13 16:49:30 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1MQMqP-0004iC-V0 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 13 Jul 2009 16:49:30 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34944 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MQMqP-0004Zw-CB for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 13 Jul 2009 10:49:29 -0400 Original-Path: news.stanford.edu!headwall.stanford.edu!newsfeed.esat.net!feeder.news.heanet.ie!feeder.erje.net!feeder.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help Original-Lines: 27 Original-X-Trace: news.eternal-september.org U2FsdGVkX1//PQzHLKoGY4tUGVBNJzGOm/o/cyiTuHBBr5AZx8CIVu63XBKaP3D/e+BOY/NBiI28M+S+C/asJ1oSNaZGwmqXat3a5uDSiKq/c/rcIH96aNwAXTox8GeFM/+bP/1CGotnbu/kQSemOQ== Original-X-Complaints-To: abuse-VVbKFVtnif8H+i2N2EyTrmui9UKz+5OX@public.gmane.org Original-NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 13:17:50 +0000 (UTC) X-Auth-Sender: U2FsdGVkX19nyPbbnLILFAYXegsmSbgb6nfxyEZ/0Aw= X-Archive: encrypt Face: 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 X-Www-site: Under construction... Cancel-Lock: sha1:xPIWZjy0D2go5h2a2B++771Ekn8= sha1:kiGSLe5oPwLN9/jILAGc58xGxqk= User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.94 (gnu/linux) Original-Xref: news.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:170830 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 10:46:30 -0400 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs-mXXj517/zsQ@public.gmane.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org-mXXj517/zsQ@public.gmane.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org-mXXj517/zsQ@public.gmane.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:66030 Archived-At: Francis Moreau wrote: > On Jul 13, 11:51=C2=A0am, Teemu Likonen wrote: >> On 2009-07-13 02:16 (-0700), Francis Moreau wrote: >>> On Jul 13, 10:21=C2=A0am, Teemu Likonen wrote: >>>> OK, then it's probably me who fails to understand why do you keep talk= ing >>>> about "M-x shell" when you need a terminal. This "page-at-a-time" feat= ure >>>> comes with terminal emulation. There's no need to make "M-x shell" a r= eal >>>> terminal because there already is one: "M-x term". > > Damn, I repeat one more time: I don't want "| less" or less(1) work in "M= -x > shell" (hope this is clear now) Just one (real) question: what's the advantage of `M-x shell'? I understand `M-x term' allows for full-blown terminal emulation, but can we use it every time we were going to use `M-x shell'? Or are there some things `M-x term' can't do while `M-x shell' can? Thanks, Seb --=20 S=C3=A9bastien=C2=A0Vauban