From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Anselm Helbig Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Viper: replacing text? Date: Fri, 04 Sep 2009 10:02:28 +0200 Organization: Freie Universitaet Berlin Message-ID: <87vdjzcf3f.wl%anselm.helbig+news2009@googlemail.com> References: <058f0626-a0d0-4d45-b8a6-01e948464151@j4g2000yqa.googlegroups.com> <87fxb4niiy.fsf@gmail.com> <0ea65763-4e18-4150-8e49-88de271c7c12@g19g2000yqo.googlegroups.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1252053767 14391 80.91.229.12 (4 Sep 2009 08:42:47 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 4 Sep 2009 08:42:47 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Sep 04 10:42:41 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1MjUNP-0001lp-GP for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 04 Sep 2009 10:42:35 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40881 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MjUNO-000350-Tp for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 04 Sep 2009 04:42:34 -0400 Original-Path: news.stanford.edu!usenet.stanford.edu!news.tele.dk!news.tele.dk!small.news.tele.dk!news-1.dfn.de!news.dfn.de!news1.uni-leipzig.de!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help Original-Lines: 28 Original-X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de r89ZK1L2nlDNPDpBW2lyQwOdxvK65EfiNQ4ykcggD/KqUqzbtp4KQ50gb8 Cancel-Lock: sha1:lV1iy8gbijVCU+13lRP7n/Dvg6I= In-Reply-To: Mail-Followup-To: Anselm Helbig Original-Xref: news.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:172712 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:67851 Archived-At: At Thu, 3 Sep 2009 15:51:22 -0700 (PDT), Elena wrote: > > On 3 Set, 23:53, Lennart Borgman > > Someone may say I am wrong since " and P requires shift on most > > keyboards so it is really 10 in Viper... > > > > The real advantage with the Viper keys is in my opinion perhaps that > > you use the keyboard keys you reach very fast, ie normal letters. At > > least for me reaching Control and Meta is a bit slower. > > Me too. > > > > > However in the beginning getting used to the vi modal editing is a bit > > hard. > > I think the trick is: you should always be in Viper mode. Whenever you > enter Insert mode to enter text, you should hit Esc as soon as > possible. And swap that useless Caps Lock with Esc ;-) Nah, the leftmost key on the home row should always be bound to Control. You can use C-[ for ESC. 8-) -- Anselm Helbig mailto:anselm.helbig+news2009@googlemail.com