From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: =?utf-8?Q?=C3=93scar_Fuentes?= Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: CVE-2017-14482 - Red Hat Customer Portal Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2017 20:27:25 +0200 Message-ID: <87vak1qs1e.fsf@qcore> References: <1b3bec6e-d4d5-37a7-ba54-49bd2d8281bd@yandex.com> <86k20qbcu9.fsf@zoho.com> <86o9q0a8zc.fsf@zoho.com> <87vak8rwcx.fsf@qcore> <87mv5is54g.fsf@qcore> <4d048ea0-5c54-f5ba-c903-78614480ac76@yandex.com> <83a81d8ylf.fsf@gnu.org> <20170929145921.GA5297@TP-x61s.localdomain> <87zi9dqwi2.fsf@qcore> <86tvzlxvye.fsf@zoho.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1506709711 19079 195.159.176.226 (29 Sep 2017 18:28:31 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2017 18:28:31 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.0.50 (gnu/linux) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Sep 29 20:28:27 2017 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1dy01R-0004HC-0B for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 29 Sep 2017 20:28:25 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:36604 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dy01W-0002fS-KF for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 29 Sep 2017 14:28:30 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:46153) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dy00w-0002eJ-VG for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 29 Sep 2017 14:27:55 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dy00t-00055K-Pc for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 29 Sep 2017 14:27:54 -0400 Original-Received: from [195.159.176.226] (port=34741 helo=blaine.gmane.org) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dy00t-00054Y-I6 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 29 Sep 2017 14:27:51 -0400 Original-Received: from list by blaine.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1dy00c-0000Lc-4x for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 29 Sep 2017 20:27:34 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 25 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org Cancel-Lock: sha1:0VInjkChsn79QBjQoST+HLCxyI0= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] [fuzzy] X-Received-From: 195.159.176.226 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:114478 Archived-At: Emanuel Berg writes: > Óscar Fuentes wrote: > >> Ever heard of interactive development? >> I've doing that for the last 20 years and the >> success ratio is almost 100%. > > I've heard of that and that's what we have with > Elisp and Common Lisp with SLIME. The success > ratio is never "almost 100%" tho so I suspect > you refer to some other "interactiveness" that > I'm unaware of? Here the context is not having requirements on a useful way for developing the software. Interactive development is about communicating with the client for extracting a minimally specified set of requirements, analyze them, implement them (sometimes partially) and use that implementation as a basis for communicating with the client again. Rinse, repeat. Eventually the client is happy with the result. This is not an approach you can apply to every type of project (not really good for avionics :-) but, when it is applicable, it works extremely well, provided that you have the necessary communication skills and tools for rapid development.