From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Emacs i18n Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2021 21:06:25 +0200 Message-ID: <87v953v64u.fsf@zoho.eu> References: <2114291.0jFjTtfV1S@galex-713.eu> <875yx8bquz.fsf@zoho.eu> <87lf633wc3.fsf@zoho.eu> <87czrcdysr.fsf@zoho.eu> <8735s7pzps.fsf@zoho.eu> <87tuknoj7z.fsf@zoho.eu> <87h7gnwnzf.fsf@zoho.eu> <874kcnwlsh.fsf@zoho.eu> Reply-To: Emanuel Berg Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="31315"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Cancel-Lock: sha1:ee+FbDS/l8MZ25QzS3y5bzCVP38= Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Jul 21 21:07:08 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1m6HYi-0007yC-EB for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 21 Jul 2021 21:07:08 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:52546 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1m6HYg-00067h-MR for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 21 Jul 2021 15:07:06 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:56884) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1m6HYF-00067X-FP for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 21 Jul 2021 15:06:39 -0400 Original-Received: from ciao.gmane.io ([116.202.254.214]:36748) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1m6HYD-00035z-LB for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 21 Jul 2021 15:06:39 -0400 Original-Received: from list by ciao.gmane.io with local (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1m6HY9-0007EW-Pi for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 21 Jul 2021 21:06:33 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Mail-Copies-To: never Received-SPF: pass client-ip=116.202.254.214; envelope-from=geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; helo=ciao.gmane.io X-Spam_score_int: -16 X-Spam_score: -1.7 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.7 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.248, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:131972 Archived-At: >> There is still a significant, though diminishing, >> proportion of papers, textbooks, and research books which >> are written in French. The proportion is about 1-2%. >> The production of research in any other language than >> English and French has essentially come to a halt. > > ikr? > > These algorithms from the paleo-scientific era of computing > are discontinued. > > But: Can you verify these digits (1-2%, ->0) and/or give us > references, please? > ikr? > > These algorithms from the paleo-scientific era of computing > are discontinued. > > But: Can you verify these digits (1-2%, ->0) and/or give us > references, please? Now we are getting somewhere, let's see, here where I live we have three specifically computer-related educations on the university level, namely * Computer Science (in theory the most theoretic but in practice the most practical one; master programs are (1) HCI, (2) CS which is more theory, perhaps for real this time [as in computations on real time models, indeed], and (3) embedded systems which is the coolest and most difficult one IMO because of the practical component and addition to theory, HCI should be the easiest altho nothing is "easy" on this level) * Information Technology Engineers (this is very close to CS actually and is as difficult and time-consuming, it has more math than CS and also a couple of random society-oriented courses, other than that they are virtually the same I'd say, and this also show in the big overlap with respect to courses and students; I always considered the IT guys as good as us and having virtually the same inclinations and comintment to "the cause") * Information Systems (this is something different, no overlap at all in courses or students with the CS and IT guys; I'd describe it as burocratic and administrative support systems for business - it is by far the least in-depth tech. this education isn't easy but not difficult, students who work moderately hard deal with it with no problems) Can we get the stats - BSc, MSc, and PhD - what language? - can we get the stats for these three internationally somehow? to be able to compare and settle this for good with hard facts? -- underground experts united https://dataswamp.org/~incal