From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eric S Fraga Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: package for Email Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2023 17:35:29 +0000 Organization: On the Interweb somewhere Message-ID: <87v8l2jula.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> References: <87mt6fxoak.fsf@dataswamp.org> <86mt6e4nuk.fsf@eduroam-193-157-225-240.wlan.uio.no> <874jsm5we5.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> <87y1pye9yn.fsf@t14.reltub.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="10711"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: gnus (Emacs 30.0.50) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Cancel-Lock: sha1:gjyVsViHJql1DhS6hmE4d5ySTfo= Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Jan 19 18:36:07 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1pIYpa-0002V0-3c for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 19 Jan 2023 18:36:06 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pIYpB-0001x9-MQ; Thu, 19 Jan 2023 12:35:41 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pIYp9-0001wi-BR for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 19 Jan 2023 12:35:39 -0500 Original-Received: from ciao.gmane.io ([116.202.254.214]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pIYp7-0000XN-R6 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 19 Jan 2023 12:35:39 -0500 Original-Received: from list by ciao.gmane.io with local (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1pIYp4-0001je-GO for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 19 Jan 2023 18:35:34 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ X-Url: http://twitter.com/ericsfraga/ Received-SPF: pass client-ip=116.202.254.214; envelope-from=geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; helo=ciao.gmane.io X-Spam_score_int: -16 X-Spam_score: -1.7 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.7 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.249, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:142437 Archived-At: On Thursday, 19 Jan 2023 at 17:00, Leo Butler wrote: > I encountered the same problem when my employer introduced mandatory 2fa > last year. I use davmail+gnus like you, but I cannot recommend it: > davmail is fiendishly slow, does not cope well with a mobile existence > (i.e. suspend & resume) and makes a large number of mistakes involving > copying & deleting emails. I guess I should have made it clear that I use POP instead of IMAP to access my Exchange server so all manipulation after that is gnus alone (minimising my exposure to Outlook/Exchange). It could be that access with IMAP is more finicky. > I would *love* to have a working 2fa layer for gnus that works as > painlessly as thunderbird's without needing something like davmail. Yes, a built-in solution in gnus/Emacs would be welcome. -- Eric S Fraga via gnus (Emacs 30.0.50 2023-01-06) on Debian 11.5