From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Dieter Wilhelm Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: M-! -- new or other binding ?? Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2007 22:18:52 +0200 Organization: The Church of Emacs Message-ID: <87tzvipv4j.fsf@debby.local.net> References: <1176328029.3064.146.camel@CASE> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1176581973 469 80.91.229.12 (14 Apr 2007 20:19:33 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2007 20:19:33 +0000 (UTC) Cc: EMACS List To: William Case Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Apr 14 22:19:27 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1HcoiT-0004zT-NR for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 14 Apr 2007 22:19:25 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Hcomt-00079q-DJ for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 14 Apr 2007 16:23:59 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Hcomg-00079l-MN for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 14 Apr 2007 16:23:46 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Hcome-000785-22 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 14 Apr 2007 16:23:45 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Hcomd-00077x-Vd for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 14 Apr 2007 16:23:44 -0400 Original-Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de ([212.227.126.183]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1HcoiD-0007w2-AK for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 14 Apr 2007 16:19:09 -0400 Original-Received: from [84.167.10.53] (helo=debby.local.net) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (node=mrelayeu7) with ESMTP (Nemesis), id 0ML2xA-1HcoiB0Fwz-0007do; Sat, 14 Apr 2007 22:19:07 +0200 Original-Received: from dieter by debby.local.net with local (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Hcohw-000198-KF; Sat, 14 Apr 2007 22:18:52 +0200 In-Reply-To: <1176328029.3064.146.camel@CASE> (William Case's message of "Wed\, 11 Apr 2007 17\:47\:09 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.0.95 (gnu/linux) X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/dP7TlId0Fz8ftY47V8Ej4yvht9DA9s65ddnm TXm4h4UWuf6Km942F3VnD5J8Ksh+vvCDyal4FvGP7D86CqUF7u xMQftqGj2qgc+KnPzSRmIJVG+FdfeN0 X-detected-kernel: Linux 2.6? (barebone, rare!) X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:42687 Archived-At: William Case writes: > I find myself using the shell-command (M-!) a lot lately and the reach > for all the keys (on my keyboard Alt+Shft+!) is difficult. Have I > missed a keyboarding trick using one hand or can someone suggest another I use the left thumb on ALT the little finger of the same hand on 1 and the little finger on the right hand on SHIFT. (In this way your hand remains in touch type position.) -- Best wishes H. Dieter Wilhelm Darmstadt, Germany