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From: Gernot Hassenpflug <gernot@yahoo.com>
To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Meta-Characters, Special Characters
Date: Sun, 03 Jun 2007 00:39:28 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87tztqnz67.fsf@aikishugyo.dnsdojo.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 856466x0i5.fsf@lola.goethe.zz

David Kastrup <dak@gnu.org> writes:

> Gernot Hassenpflug <gernot@yahoo.com> writes:
>
>> Miles Bader <miles@gnu.org> writes:
>>
>>> Gernot Hassenpflug <gernot@nict.go.jp> writes:
>>>> I am happy to note that Windows too stores its iinformation in UTF-8
>>>> internally, no matter what the user's settings for a particular
>>>> program may be.
>>>
>>> I thought windows used something a bit more annoying and ad-hoc, UCS-16
>>> or something like that.
>>
>> Oh, you may be right there, I should have qualified my statement: as
>> opposed to a Windows-specific charset I think Windows uses a
>> universal charset. I am not sure why UCS-16 is more ad-hoc than
>> UTF-8, but I would be more than happy if linux instead of UTF-8
>> moved to UTF-16 or UTF-32, in view of the many charsets I need in my
>> work. I am not nearly educated enough on this topic to hold a
>> coherent conversation however, still reading.  -- Grrr!!  ...Pick a
>> reason...
>
> As soon as you leave the UTF-16 base plane, you need to deal with
> surrogate character pairs.  The issues are pretty much the same as
> when dealing with UTF-8, and you get the additional complications of
> wide characters, quite more conspicuous byte order marks, Endianness
> portability problems and so on.
>
> In short: this buys you positively nothing unless you restrict
> yourself to the base 16-bit subset (which makes this infeasible for a
> number of tasks).  And even then, the disadvantages are not really in
> a good balance with the advantages.

Thanks for the explanation. In view of this, I assume at least some
experts are exploring the possibility of introducing 16-bit
bytes. Problems with legacy systems are probably unsurmountable at
present though...
-- 
Grrr!!  ...Pick a reason...

  reply	other threads:[~2007-06-02 15:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-05-29 12:58 Meta-Characters, Special Characters Will
2007-05-29 14:12 ` weber
2007-05-29 23:29 ` xah
2007-05-30  1:44   ` Joshua Cranmer
2007-05-30  4:42     ` Gernot Hassenpflug
2007-06-02  3:18       ` Miles Bader
2007-06-02  6:18         ` Gernot Hassenpflug
2007-06-02  7:45           ` David Kastrup
2007-06-02 15:39             ` Gernot Hassenpflug [this message]
2007-06-02  7:23         ` Eli Zaretskii
     [not found]         ` <mailman.1490.1180769072.32220.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2007-06-02 15:41           ` Gernot Hassenpflug
2007-05-31  1:20   ` xah
2007-05-31  9:25   ` Ingo Menger

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