Cua-mode makes active region disappear in transient-mark-mode

Cua-mode makes active region disappear in transient-mark-mode

[Teemu Likonen]

I like cua-selection-mode for its rectangle support. Still, there is a
serious annoyance to which I haven't found a solution. This affects
region behavior in transient-mark-mode which I also use.

When I select a paragraph with M-h (mark-paragraph) and move the point
the region disappears if cua-mode is switched on. Without cua-mode I can
move the edges of the region and it stays visible. This is the only
reason why I don't keep cua-(selection-)mode on by default. Can I make
cua-mode to not make active region disappear?

Re: Cua-mode makes active region disappear in transient-mark-mode

[Xah Lee]

On Nov 24, 1:24 am, Teemu Likonen <tliko...@iki.fi> wrote:
> I like cua-selection-mode for its rectangle support. Still, there is a
> serious annoyance to which I haven't found a solution. This affects
> region behavior in transient-mark-mode which I also use.
>
> When I select a paragraph with M-h (mark-paragraph) and move the point
> the region disappears if cua-mode is switched on. Without cua-mode I can
> move the edges of the region and it stays visible. This is the only
> reason why I don't keep cua-(selection-)mode on by default. Can I make
> cua-mode to not make active region disappear?

on my machine, with cua-mode on, arrow keys or any cursor moving
commands don't deactivate the region.

i did spend maybe 30 min answering this post... scratched several
times on what i wrote about the var deactivate-mark and modern UI ...

so i got curious... if i started emacs with -q and then it does. So,
something's in my emacs init file did some magic... but i can't think
of any...

O, ok, i think i found it!

;; prevent cua-mode from going into selection mode when commands with
Shift key is used.
(add-hook 'cua-mode-hook
 (lambda ()
    (put 'cua-scroll-down 'CUA nil)
    (put 'cua-scroll-up 'CUA nil)
    (put 'backward-paragraph 'CUA nil)
    (put 'forward-paragraph 'CUA nil)
    (put 'beginning-of-buffer 'CUA nil)
    (put 'end-of-buffer 'CUA nil)
    (put 'move-end-of-line 'CUA nil)
   )
 )

from:
• A Ergonomic Keyboard Shortcut Layout For Emacs
  http://xahlee.org/emacs/ergonomic_emacs_keybinding.html

... oh wait but the hook doesn't have any cursor moving commands...
note that i also have
(delete-selection-mode t)
but i don't think this matters.
(Note that delete-selection-mode automatically sets transient-mark-
mode to t, however, cua mode does not actually call transient-mark-
mode, but does emulate its behavior in its own implementation, and
actually set transient-mark-mode to t for display purposes)

OK, now i found it for sure.

Basically, if you remap your cursor moving keys, then it won't
deactivate selection.

For example, do a text selection, then type M-x backward-word, you'll
see that your region remains active. Since i have all my cursor moving
shortcuts different from default, so they don't deactivate region for
me. Perhaps cua mode is checking actual keypresses.

Ok, i try this: set the cursor moving commands's property CUA to nil,
like in the above hook.

cua mode is quite complex with respect to elisp coding ...

--------------

... i didn't know what cua rectangle features do, and did read up. It
is very nice. I wonder if it should be a separate package from cua.
(for those don't want to bother looking up, just turn cua-mode on,
then press Ctrl+Enter, then move arrow keys, then see that a real
rectangular highlighting is done, implemented using overlay.)

i've always been using kill-rectangle and string-rectangle for like 10
years. One thing i missed is how to actually copy and paste a column
of text. Never did bother to read the proper manual... and i suppose
now cua mode does it.

Cua mode does support copying/pasting a column of text right?

is it possible to do this with rectangle* commands?

  Xah
∑ http://xahlee.org/

☄

Re: Cua-mode makes active region disappear in transient-mark-mode

[Teemu Likonen]

Teemu Likonen (2008-11-24 09:24 +0000) wrote:

> I like cua-selection-mode for its rectangle support. Still, there is a
> serious annoyance to which I haven't found a solution. This affects
> region behavior in transient-mark-mode which I also use.
>
> When I select a paragraph with M-h (mark-paragraph) and move the point
> the region disappears if cua-mode is switched on. Without cua-mode I
> can move the edges of the region and it stays visible. This is the
> only reason why I don't keep cua-(selection-)mode on by default. Can I
> make cua-mode to not make active region disappear?

It turned out that the CUA property of these cursor moving commands
caused the funny things I described above. I fixed it with this hook:

    (add-hook 'cua-mode-hook
              (lambda ()
                (dolist (cmd '(forward-char
                               backward-char
                               previous-line
                               next-line
                               forward-paragraph
                               backward-paragraph
                               beginning-of-buffer
                               end-of-buffer))
                  (put cmd 'CUA nil))))

I really think that the rectangle support should be separated from cua
bindings, to something like rectangle-mode or visual-rectangle-mode.

Re: Cua-mode makes active region disappear in transient-mark-mode

[Allan Gottlieb]

At Mon, 24 Nov 2008 05:16:02 -0800 (PST) Xah Lee <xahlee@gmail.com> wrote:

> Cua mode does support copying/pasting a column of text right?
>
> is it possible to do this with rectangle* commands?

Sure.  kill-rectangle followed by yank rectangle will do a move.

So kill followed by 2 yanks will copy.  Or you can use
copy-rectangle-to-register followed by insert-register.

allan