From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: jidanni@jidanni.org Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help,gmane.linux.debian.devel.general,gmane.linux.debian.devel.emacsen Subject: Re: emacs on a text console - please help me overcome the shock Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2011 08:35:58 +0800 Message-ID: <87ty99otg1.fsf@jidanni.org> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1314059774 18035 80.91.229.12 (23 Aug 2011 00:36:14 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2011 00:36:14 +0000 (UTC) Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org To: debian-devel@lists.debian.org, 633652@bugs.debian.org, debian-emacsen@lists.debian.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Aug 23 02:36:10 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QveyP-0007kr-PY for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 23 Aug 2011 02:36:09 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:43852 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QveyP-0002ay-An for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 22 Aug 2011 20:36:09 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:33286) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QveyL-0002af-8b for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 22 Aug 2011 20:36:06 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QveyK-0003Ob-1I for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 22 Aug 2011 20:36:05 -0400 Original-Received: from caiajhbdcaib.dreamhost.com ([208.97.132.81]:47105 helo=homiemail-a60.g.dreamhost.com) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QveyJ-0003OU-QR for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 22 Aug 2011 20:36:04 -0400 Original-Received: from homiemail-a60.g.dreamhost.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by homiemail-a60.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C13E3BC065; Mon, 22 Aug 2011 17:36:02 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=jidanni.org; h=from:to:cc:subject :references:date:message-id:mime-version:content-type; q=dns; s= jidanni.org; b=MQEwK5z8aZf5QW6ndIjpmjN/MIzZHlBsmyP7tj+JVVzKSqYfQ P5xJozrQFGl4Z/eLL5ZCGDkRK7QIZR8nX3DFsVib7Nf7FLM1mtXimDEscnDeSo6R NWa1WEuSZ4tA9cWhS6Kl3Nt+deE2a52ynSf/lPTYYMGdXGdKg4TcovFzA0= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=jidanni.org; h=from:to:cc :subject:references:date:message-id:mime-version:content-type; s=jidanni.org; bh=DiYBgcaQkDIwMNRSBHyXu/Do63A=; b=mg++ws2uZtgdE dF46GbgyKm7k6ytqTnb5vEhC1/Uk6e2XSSqrYAYni4dIGxKykv2VKtmye6fqU5wp ncoy3VlfRYa/xy8CkbMG6wUXUnz4kopSe50FMUHL7Zp5zVs2FR70piszvYq2h/ev ArjAc1jjiJ7oqPotz2F/HiIeElNUPc= Original-Received: from jidanni.org (218-163-1-251.dynamic.hinet.net [218.163.1.251]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: jidanni@jidanni.org) by homiemail-a60.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id B065C3BC06B; Mon, 22 Aug 2011 17:36:01 -0700 (PDT) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 208.97.132.81 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:82016 gmane.linux.debian.devel.general:164769 gmane.linux.debian.devel.emacsen:2693 Archived-At: >>>>> "r" == rdiezmail-emacs writes: r> The console mode has been a shock. There is no mouse at all. I cannot r> navigate the menus as usual, menu-bar-open is weird and unfriendly. r> But, worst of all, some key combinations do not work well. But that's the way it must be here on Debian, if you are root. http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=633652 My question is how do all those high powered Debian Developers cope? Don't tell me they don't use emacs. Or not as root. Not even when administering their system?