From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: wgreenhouse-sGOZH3hwPm2sTnJN9+BGXg@public.gmane.org (W. Greenhouse) Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: best gnu/linux distro for emacs Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2013 01:00:42 +0000 Message-ID: <87txo0nvid.fsf@riseup.net> References: <878v5cpzhc.fsf@riseup.net> <20130325065928.6369b35eccb250f87c1d9ab2@gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1364173566 28463 80.91.229.3 (25 Mar 2013 01:06:06 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2013 01:06:06 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs-mXXj517/zsQ@public.gmane.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org-mXXj517/zsQ@public.gmane.org Mon Mar 25 02:06:32 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1UJvrr-0007yR-VJ for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 25 Mar 2013 02:06:32 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:60074 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UJvrU-00069w-4j for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 24 Mar 2013 21:06:08 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:57293) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UJvr3-00069g-EN for help-gnu-emacs-mXXj517/zsQ@public.gmane.org; Sun, 24 Mar 2013 21:05:46 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UJvmS-0001uI-M9 for help-gnu-emacs-mXXj517/zsQ@public.gmane.org; Sun, 24 Mar 2013 21:01:07 -0400 Original-Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:55059) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UJvmR-0001tt-Sq for help-gnu-emacs-mXXj517/zsQ@public.gmane.org; Sun, 24 Mar 2013 21:00:56 -0400 Original-Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1UJvmo-0003o6-6z for help-gnu-emacs-mXXj517/zsQ@public.gmane.org; Mon, 25 Mar 2013 02:01:18 +0100 Original-Received: from tor-node.rutgers.edu ([128.6.224.107]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 25 Mar 2013 02:01:18 +0100 Original-Received: from wgreenhouse by tor-node.rutgers.edu with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 25 Mar 2013 02:01:18 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 47 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet-dbVV3NMTNubNLxjTenLetw@public.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: tor-node.rutgers.edu X-Archive: encrypt User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.2 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:2rQ63gJnxgLctX4G6CngCXrMkDo= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 80.91.229.3 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs-mXXj517/zsQ@public.gmane.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org-mXXj517/zsQ@public.gmane.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org-mXXj517/zsQ@public.gmane.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:89727 Archived-At: Xue Fuqiao writes: > On Sun, 24 Mar 2013 15:51:59 +0000 > wgreenhouse-sGOZH3hwPm2sTnJN9+BGXg@public.gmane.org (W. Greenhouse) wrote: > >> "Alan E. Davis" writes: > >> > For now, what is the "best" distribution of GNU/Linux for running >> > emacs? > >> The vital thing is less a question of distros and more a question of >> window manager/desktop environment, I think: avoid those which clobber >> important Emacs keybindings (e.g. M-TAB) and make it hard to >> reconfigure. > > Right, many WM/DE block some keyboard inputs like `M-', `M-', > `C-M-d' and `C-M-l'. And I think a lightweight WM/DE is preferred. > Because Emacs can do everything, it can take the place of most features > in a DE. > > It's also a question of web browser. For this question, I prefer > Conkeror, because it is mainly patterned after Emacs. > > It's also a question of X toolkit. For this question, I prefer > Gtk+, because it is the best toolkit supported by Emacs. > > Maybe it's also a question of secure communications library, but I'm no > expert on GnuTLS and its integration. Big +1 to Conkeror. However, I am not a big fan of the Gtk+ build of Emacs, because this choice of X toolkit for building Emacs introduces a big problem with respect to Emacs daemon reliability (loss of connection to the X server will now crash the daemon). See the long-standing bug against Gtk+, https://bugs.launchpad.net/gtk/+bug/543611/comments/22. If you like the Emacs GUI under X and you like using emacsclient/emacs --daemon, I recommend ./configure --with-x-toolkit=lucid or ./configure --with-x-toolkit=no as alternatives to using a Gtk+ build of Emacs. X integration, including graphics and the ability to use Xft fonts, will not be affected; only the UI "widgets" such as scroll bars and toolbar buttons will change. But you will be free from the threat of your daemon going down if there is some problem with X. -- BOFH excuse #27: radiosity depletion