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From: Eric Abrahamsen <eric@ericabrahamsen.net>
To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Speeding up Emacs load time
Date: Sat, 29 Jun 2013 13:04:05 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87txkhmrsq.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 87y59urnfn.fsf@VLAN-3434.student.uu.se

Emanuel Berg <embe8573@student.uu.se> writes:

> Bob Proulx <bob@proulx.com> writes:
>
>> I looked at your .emacs file.  It is rather extensive.  Time
>> consuming parts are usually anytime you (require 'foo) or (load
>> "foo").  Do you really need all of those executed each and every
>> time you start emacs?  Probably not.
>
> OK, this is one way to think. There is another way to think. The
> other way to think is: one second at x does not equal one second
> at y. When you start Emacs, you are not in a rush. You make sure
> you work place is organized. You fetch water, books. You relax you
> shoulders. Whatever. Here, you do have time to wait. However, when
> you are attentively at work, and you have one million thoughts in
> your head at once, you just need to bring up some Emacs
> functionality with a minimal delay. Here, time is much more
> important. It is like the super-focused people playing ice hockey
> or sparring for a boxing fight - for them, 10 seconds is like an
> eternity. When you, as a programmer, reaches that highest peak of
> productivity/focus, you don't want to load any modules, possible
> creating havoc, that (at worst) could take you from what you were
> doing. Super-focus, once lost, cannot easily be recovered. So, my
> piece of advice: be safe, first load everything safe and sound,
> then do your worst to the actual problem you try so solve, with
> minimal interference.

+1 -- I used to do a bunch of autoload/eval-after-load stuff, but later
came to the same conclusion.




  reply	other threads:[~2013-06-29  5:04 UTC|newest]

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2013-06-25 23:06   ` Speeding up Emacs load time Andrew Pennebaker
2013-06-26  2:02     ` Hongxu Chen
2013-06-26  7:30       ` Didier Verna
2013-06-26 17:04     ` J. David Boyd
2013-06-26 17:15       ` Mihamina Rakotomandimby
2013-07-15  1:02       ` Ken Goldman
2013-07-15  1:33         ` Andrew Pennebaker
2013-07-15  6:20           ` Glyn Millington
2013-07-15  8:15             ` Rasmus
2013-07-15  8:05           ` Peter Dyballa
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2013-07-24 20:50             ` Sebastien Vauban
2013-07-24 21:22               ` J. David Boyd
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2013-07-25  7:25                 ` Sebastien Vauban
2013-07-25 14:20               ` J. David Boyd
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2013-07-25 19:24                 ` Sebastien Vauban
     [not found]         ` <mailman.1061.1373851999.12400.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2013-07-15 14:06           ` Emanuel Berg
2013-07-15 14:45             ` Peter Dyballa
2013-07-15 15:46             ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-07-15 16:08               ` J. David Boyd
     [not found]             ` <mailman.1105.1373903184.12400.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2013-07-15 17:00               ` Emanuel Berg
2013-07-15 18:29                 ` Eli Zaretskii
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2013-07-15 19:49                   ` Emanuel Berg
2013-07-16  2:38                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-07-20 22:08                       ` Ken Goldman
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2013-07-16  4:13                       ` Rustom Mody
2013-07-16  9:42                         ` Emanuel Berg
2013-07-16 13:37                           ` Rustom Mody
2013-07-16 13:39                           ` Rustom Mody
2013-07-16 20:13                             ` Emanuel Berg
2013-07-16 21:02                             ` Emanuel Berg
2013-07-17  0:54                               ` Juanma Barranquero
     [not found]                               ` <mailman.1203.1374024479.12400.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2013-07-17  1:41                                 ` Emanuel Berg
2013-07-17  2:05                                   ` Juanma Barranquero
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2013-07-17  2:24                                     ` Emanuel Berg
2013-07-17  2:42                                       ` Juanma Barranquero
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2013-07-17  8:30                                         ` Emanuel Berg
2013-07-17  9:31                                           ` Juanma Barranquero
     [not found]                                           ` <mailman.1232.1374053532.12400.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2013-07-19 10:18                                             ` Emanuel Berg
2013-07-19 14:51                                               ` Juanma Barranquero
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2013-07-19 16:02                                                 ` Emanuel Berg
2013-07-20  0:03                                                   ` Juanma Barranquero
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2013-07-20  4:27                                                     ` Emanuel Berg
2013-07-20  4:35                                                       ` Jambunathan K
2013-08-28 23:08                                                     ` Emanuel Berg
2013-07-16 17:54                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-07-16 10:07                       ` Emanuel Berg
2013-07-16 17:57                         ` Eli Zaretskii
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2013-07-16 19:58                           ` Emanuel Berg
2013-07-16 20:38                             ` Peter Dyballa
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2013-07-16 21:11                               ` Emanuel Berg
2013-07-17  8:36                                 ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2013-07-16 21:25                             ` Dmitry Gutov
2013-07-17  0:57                               ` Juanma Barranquero
     [not found]                             ` <mailman.1191.1374009934.12400.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2013-07-16 21:37                               ` Dan Espen
2013-07-16 22:05                                 ` Dmitry Gutov
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2013-07-17  1:02                                   ` Dan Espen
2013-07-17  4:29                                     ` Dmitry Gutov
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2013-07-17  6:04                                       ` Emanuel Berg
2013-07-17 12:24                                         ` Eye strain and ergonomics Dmitry Gutov
2013-07-18 20:01                                           ` James Freer
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2013-07-19 10:30                                           ` Emanuel Berg
2013-07-17 12:36                                       ` Speeding up Emacs load time Dan Espen
2013-07-16 21:40                               ` Emanuel Berg
2013-07-16 22:21                                 ` Dmitry Gutov
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2013-07-16 22:55                                   ` Emanuel Berg
2013-07-16 23:48                                     ` Highway Musophobia Revisited [was: Speeding up Emacs load time] Drew Adams
2013-07-17  2:54                                       ` Jambunathan K
2013-07-19 16:21                                       ` Óscar Fuentes
2013-07-19 17:24                                         ` Drew Adams
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2013-07-20  4:20                                           ` Emanuel Berg
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2013-07-20  4:23                                         ` Emanuel Berg
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2013-07-17  0:04                                       ` Highway Musophobia Revisited Emanuel Berg
2013-07-17  3:09                                         ` Drew Adams
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2013-07-17  6:14                                           ` Emanuel Berg
2013-07-17 10:42                                             ` Jambunathan K
2013-07-17 10:42                                             ` Jambunathan K
2013-07-17 16:20                                             ` Drew Adams
2013-07-17 12:27                                       ` Highway Musophobia Revisited [was: Speeding up Emacs load time] Rustom Mody
2013-07-19 10:35                                         ` Emanuel Berg
2013-07-16  5:12                 ` Speeding up Emacs load time Jambunathan K
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2013-07-16  9:51                   ` Emanuel Berg
2013-07-16 12:26                     ` Jambunathan K
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2013-07-16 20:15                       ` Emanuel Berg
2013-06-28  3:20     ` Bob Proulx
2013-06-28  5:27       ` Hongxu Chen
2013-06-28 19:53         ` Bob Proulx
2013-06-28 12:48       ` J. David Boyd
2013-06-28 14:00         ` J. David Boyd
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2013-06-28 14:16           ` Dan Espen
2013-06-28 19:06             ` Bob Proulx
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2013-06-28 20:27       ` Emanuel Berg
2013-06-29  5:04         ` Eric Abrahamsen [this message]
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2013-06-29 17:44           ` Rustom Mody
2013-06-30  0:45             ` Eric Abrahamsen
2013-06-30 12:46             ` Emanuel Berg
2013-06-30 14:04               ` Rustom Mody
2013-06-30 18:06                 ` Emanuel Berg
2013-06-30 15:00               ` Eric Abrahamsen
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2013-06-30 16:07                 ` Rustom Mody
2013-06-30 18:17                   ` Emanuel Berg
2013-06-30 18:14                 ` Emanuel Berg
2013-07-01  5:29                   ` Eric Abrahamsen
2013-06-29 17:51         ` Bob Proulx
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2013-06-30 12:36           ` Emanuel Berg
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2013-06-26  1:16     ` Dan Espen
2013-06-27 16:14     ` Emanuel Berg
2013-06-27 17:50       ` J. David Boyd
2013-07-21  3:59     ` Rustom Mody
2013-07-21 14:18       ` Emanuel Berg
2013-07-21 14:41         ` Rustom Mody

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