From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Robert Thorpe Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: member returns list Date: Wed, 09 Sep 2015 02:48:56 +0100 Message-ID: <87twr4e513.fsf@robertthorpeconsulting.com> References: <87egicl0y1.fsf@debian.uxu> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1441763374 32378 80.91.229.3 (9 Sep 2015 01:49:34 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 9 Sep 2015 01:49:34 +0000 (UTC) Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org To: Emanuel Berg Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Sep 09 03:49:21 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ZZUVb-00079q-2Q for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 09 Sep 2015 03:49:11 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:38886 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZZUVb-0006Ss-1B for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 08 Sep 2015 21:49:11 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:44256) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZZUVR-0006Sk-Pb for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 08 Sep 2015 21:49:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZZUVO-0005nP-JA for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 08 Sep 2015 21:49:01 -0400 Original-Received: from outbound-smtp04.blacknight.com ([81.17.249.35]:54484) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZZUVO-0005md-DM for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 08 Sep 2015 21:48:58 -0400 Original-Received: from mail.blacknight.com (pemlinmail04.blacknight.ie [81.17.254.17]) by outbound-smtp04.blacknight.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DA88898E98 for ; Wed, 9 Sep 2015 01:48:57 +0000 (UTC) Original-Received: (qmail 6686 invoked from network); 9 Sep 2015 01:48:57 -0000 Original-Received: from unknown (HELO RTLaptop) (rt@robertthorpeconsulting.com@[109.77.148.72]) by 81.17.254.9 with ESMTPSA (DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA encrypted, authenticated); 9 Sep 2015 01:48:57 -0000 In-Reply-To: <87egicl0y1.fsf@debian.uxu> (message from Emanuel Berg on Sun, 06 Sep 2015 04:46:14 +0200) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 81.17.249.35 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:107095 Archived-At: Emanuel Berg writes: >> or member* in emacs lisp since RMS doesn't want to >> rejoin the common community of lispers > > What is the story about that? I think the Common Lisp vs Emacs Lisp debate is fighting the last war. In the past Common Lisp was the only major lisp. Lispers had to use that and learn it. Using Emacs was natural and if a Lisper did then that meant learning Emacs Lisp too. An obvious solution to this was to standardize on Common Lisp for Emacs too. Now though there's Clojure. By the looks of things most new Lisp development is going to be done with Clojure not Common Lisp. There's also Racket, and I expect quite a bit will be done with that. So, switching Emacs to Common Lisp won't help much. BR, Robert Thorpe