From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Thorsten Jolitz Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Is there a way to instrument for edebug a form (say, a progn) given to `eval'? Date: Fri, 01 Jan 2016 14:48:26 +0100 Message-ID: <87twmxv2ad.fsf@gmail.com> References: <87k2nw866r.fsf@mbork.pl> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1451656137 23806 80.91.229.3 (1 Jan 2016 13:48:57 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 1 Jan 2016 13:48:57 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Jan 01 14:48:49 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1aF04X-0007ct-AM for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 01 Jan 2016 14:48:49 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:35956 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aF04W-0004gd-Iv for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 01 Jan 2016 08:48:48 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:46989) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aF04L-0004gU-Ro for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 01 Jan 2016 08:48:38 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aF04I-0003mu-H2 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 01 Jan 2016 08:48:37 -0500 Original-Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:51618) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aF04I-0003mq-A3 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 01 Jan 2016 08:48:34 -0500 Original-Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1aF04H-0007Mu-De for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 01 Jan 2016 14:48:33 +0100 Original-Received: from f051054124.adsl.alicedsl.de ([78.51.54.124]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 01 Jan 2016 14:48:33 +0100 Original-Received: from tjolitz by f051054124.adsl.alicedsl.de with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 01 Jan 2016 14:48:33 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 16 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: f051054124.adsl.alicedsl.de User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.5 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:wfI/4XPqYhFPpksu0/5G6UwHPV0= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 80.91.229.3 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:108567 Archived-At: Marcin Borkowski writes: Hi, > And please don't tell me that eval is evil; > that I know, in fact, I'm asking partly to gather some arguments;-). Isn't "code = data" the core principle of Lisp, and eval the basic way to use data as code? Probably bad and slow for some Lisps with compiler, but for interpreted Lisps (as long as users can't abuse it)? -- cheers, Thorsten