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From: Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor <help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Lack of integration in Emacs - it was Re: How to rename files to numbers in Eshell?
Date: Mon, 04 Oct 2021 13:22:11 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87tuhx2fx8.fsf@zoho.eu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: YVrUXYIIW3dlA7qL@protected.localdomain

Jean Louis wrote:

>>> Yes. As compared to other software Emacs offers
>>> opportunity to integrate many features in one place.
>>> It helps user operate computer easier. Though it goes
>>> through peculiar Emacs way as compared to other software.
>> 
>> Or other software is peculiar compared to Emacs, Emacs is
>> from 1976.
>
> It still remains in old times. We have modern times,
> new needs.
>
> Example is "recent files" integration:
>
> - Open "pluma" editor, it will offer "Recent files", related
>   to other editors and software which opened "recent files"
>
> - "Gedit" will offer "Recent files" and will see recent
>   files opened by "pluma" and other software
>
> - Emacs does not see recent files opened by other editors,
>   but it should. Integration in operating systems is there,
>   provisioned, prepared, but we don't have it. [...]

Instead of complaining about all and everything you should
either start implementing these features yourself (if they
aren't anywhere to be found already) _or_ you should give up
the idea of brining in zillions of clueless smartphone users
into the Emacs realm. Because I don't think that would ever
happen even _if_ Emacs had everything you are telling us it
doesn't have.

> Example are Emacs email clients, each so much different to
> each other and none of them really ready for end users, none
> may be compared to Evolution or Thunderbird for example.

On the contrary, this is one area that we, with Gnus, is on
top of things.

> Old fashioned, hard to use. I use it all time, but my
> personal satisfaction is far from what a modern user in year
> 2021 can handle.

You do?

> Computing enthusiasm is not there any more, it drives me,
> but not the people around me [...]

Again what does it matter what other people do? If they are
happy using smartphones, so be it.

-- 
underground experts united
https://dataswamp.org/~incal




  reply	other threads:[~2021-10-04 11:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-09-11 13:15 How to rename files to numbers in Eshell? Felix E. Klee
2021-09-11 13:40 ` Jean Louis
2021-09-12  8:44   ` Felix E. Klee
2021-09-12 19:03     ` Jean Louis
2021-09-13  9:28       ` Jean Louis
2021-09-13 11:52         ` tomas
2021-09-14  7:42         ` Felix E. Klee
2021-09-14  9:17           ` Jean Louis
2021-09-14  9:32             ` tomas
2021-09-14 11:11             ` Felix E. Klee
2021-09-14 13:37               ` Jean Louis
2021-09-14 15:48                 ` Felix E. Klee
2021-09-16 22:37                   ` Michael Heerdegen
2021-09-16 22:47             ` Michael Heerdegen
2021-09-17  7:27               ` Felix E. Klee
2021-09-24  7:21         ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-09-25 13:43           ` Jean Louis
2021-09-26  2:50             ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-09-30  6:38         ` Felix E. Klee
2021-09-30  7:37           ` Jean Louis
2021-09-30  7:50             ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-09-30 13:17             ` Felix E. Klee
2021-09-30 15:34               ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-09-30 21:42                 ` Jean Louis
2021-10-01  0:09                   ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-10-01 20:51                     ` Jean Louis
2021-10-01 21:34                       ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-10-02  7:53                         ` Lack of integration in Emacs - it was " Jean Louis
2021-10-03  8:16                           ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-10-03  9:27                             ` Jean Louis
2021-10-04  3:29                               ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-10-04 10:15                                 ` Jean Louis
2021-10-04 11:22                                   ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor [this message]
2021-09-22 14:46       ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-09-22 14:27   ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-09-16 12:15 ` Felix E. Klee
2021-09-16 15:11   ` Nick Dokos
2021-09-16 16:07     ` Felix E. Klee

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