From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Carbon emacs - frame too big for minibuffer can't resize window Date: Wed, 02 Mar 2005 08:02:43 -0500 Organization: Bell Sympatico Message-ID: <87sm3e6wfa.fsf-monnier+gnu.emacs.help@gnu.org> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1109769413 30250 80.91.229.2 (2 Mar 2005 13:16:53 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2005 13:16:53 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Mar 02 14:16:53 2005 Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1D6Ti6-0006cB-2b for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 02 Mar 2005 14:16:18 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1D6U0r-00063h-FS for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 02 Mar 2005 08:35:41 -0500 Original-Path: shelby.stanford.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!headwall.stanford.edu!newshub.sdsu.edu!cyclone.bc.net!snoopy.risq.qc.ca!nf3.bellglobal.com!nf1.bellglobal.com!nf2.bellglobal.com!news20.bellglobal.com.POSTED!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:0kDGxCQV4f1htQyAB6j8cDefjSA= Original-Lines: 20 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 67.68.218.40 Original-X-Complaints-To: abuse@sympatico.ca Original-X-Trace: news20.bellglobal.com 1109768563 67.68.218.40 (Wed, 02 Mar 2005 08:02:43 EST) Original-NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 02 Mar 2005 08:02:43 EST Original-Xref: shelby.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:128926 Original-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org X-MailScanner-To: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:24469 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.help:24469 > Note that lines longer than 80 characters are not recommended as they > will not fit on standard terminals. That's why the default width is 80. The problem is not "standard terminals" but legibility. The rule of thumb is usually that upto 60 columns is perfectly fine, but as you go further away from that (soft) limit, the eyes have a harder and harder time to find the beginning of a line from the end of the previous one. Given that code (as opposed to plain text) often has some indentation on the left side, 80 columns is still OK (assuming 20 of them are indentation whitespace). For this reason I'd indeed recommend to stick to 80 columns for typical situations (even though barely anybody still knows what's a "standard terminal"). Of course, when working on something like a spreadsheet, there are often other reasons to justify using 250 columns or more. Stefan