From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Tim X Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Are there an elisp package manager like apt-get or cpan? Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2006 18:24:52 +1000 Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com Message-ID: <87sljz67xn.fsf@tiger.rapttech.com.au> References: <1155441044.103183.254590@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com> <87wt9d5d2w.fsf@tiger.rapttech.com.au> <878xltyptr.fsf@baldur.nicundtas.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1155544923 18072 80.91.229.2 (14 Aug 2006 08:42:03 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2006 08:42:03 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Aug 14 10:42:03 2006 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GCY1F-00016O-RC for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 14 Aug 2006 10:41:58 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GCY1F-0003UL-2P for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 14 Aug 2006 04:41:57 -0400 Original-Path: shelby.stanford.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!news.tele.dk!news.tele.dk!small.news.tele.dk!news.astraweb.com!newsrouter-eu.astraweb.com!193.201.147.67.MISMATCH!feeder2.cambrium.nl!feeder1.cambrium.nl!feed.tweaknews.nl!sn-xt-ams-06!sn-xt-ams-08!sn-ams!sn-feed-ams-01!sn-post-ams-02!sn-post-sjc-01!supernews.com!corp.supernews.com!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help User-Agent: Gnus/5.110006 (No Gnus v0.6) Emacs/22.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:2XFcox25+rmRTZZo+MocZrFiwyo= Original-X-Complaints-To: abuse@supernews.com Original-Lines: 43 Original-Xref: shelby.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:141055 Original-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:36680 Archived-At: Tassilo Horn writes: > Tim X writes: > > Hi Tim, > >> I think you hit th enail on the head - the real problem is that we >> don't have a central, maintained and up-to-date repository of emacs >> packages. There have been anumber of emacs lisp archives in the past, >> but they all seem to last only as long as the person who initiated the >> effort is prepared to maintain things. Once they move on to something >> else, it all just dies. > > If there was such an repository and an asdf-install like tool for elisp > I'm sure developers would update their packages themselves. > >> It would be nice if some body like GNU would setup and maintain a >> single comprehensive elisp archive. > > I think a simple packages.el on emacswiki.org would suffice in the > beginning. Then developers could update their packages themselves > without having to register somewhere. > Yes, an asdf like package installer would be good for emacs. It would be possible then to have an on-line list of asdf supported emacs packages on the emacs wiki and then we could just do asdf::install. Of course, there are the security issues with both a wiki and with any program that will seek out a package and install it for you. PGP keys and checksums would address some of the later issues - don't know about making sure the list is safe/reliable. A wiki is probably a bad choice, but we would need something that enables maintainers to easily update things. then again, maybe we don't need something as powerful as asdf and an existing system, such as darcs, could do the job. Tim -- tcross (at) rapttech dot com dot au