From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eric Hanchrow Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Book recommendation Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2006 15:58:12 -0700 Message-ID: <87sljgbh8b.fsf@offby1.atm01.sea.blarg.net> References: <878xl8345t.fsf@mail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1156806519 13096 80.91.229.2 (28 Aug 2006 23:08:39 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2006 23:08:39 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Aug 29 01:08:37 2006 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GHqDb-00048z-LQ for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 29 Aug 2006 01:08:37 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GHqDb-00048n-5j for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 28 Aug 2006 19:08:35 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1GHqDO-00048I-I7 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 28 Aug 2006 19:08:22 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1GHqDN-00047l-8t for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 28 Aug 2006 19:08:21 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GHqDN-00047h-5T for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 28 Aug 2006 19:08:21 -0400 Original-Received: from [80.91.229.2] (helo=ciao.gmane.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1GHqMP-0001dv-Uy for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 28 Aug 2006 19:17:42 -0400 Original-Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1GHqDF-00045e-Go for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 29 Aug 2006 01:08:13 +0200 Original-Received: from q-static-138-125.avvanta.com ([206.124.138.125]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 29 Aug 2006 01:08:13 +0200 Original-Received: from offby1 by q-static-138-125.avvanta.com with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 29 Aug 2006 01:08:13 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-Lines: 36 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: q-static-138-125.avvanta.com User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.0.51 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:9iBOu0kFC+sYBDwOYdFz5BJQ/RY= X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:37014 Archived-At: >>>>> "Hadron" == Hadron Quark writes: Hadron> The elisp info/manual is too much like a standard. That's a shame -- I think that manual is one of the better ones I've ever read. Hadron> Is there a K&R type book you can recommend for elisp? Well, there's http://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/emacs-lisp-intro. Not very K&R-like, but perhaps it'll do. Hadron> How much like "Lisp" is "elisp"? elisp _is_ Lisp. You probably meant "How much like Common Lisp is elisp". I don't know. It has lots in common, and many differences. Hadron> is there *a* Lisp? or does it vary a lot? Try http://lisp.org/alu/home; click the "Lisp Resources" link. Hadron> What would you recommend for someone to get to grips with Hadron> advanced Lisp programming in emacs? The Emacs Lisp Reference Manual. Hadron> Is (debugger) the only debugger? There's edebug-mode. Very handy. -- In the practice of computing, where we have so much latitude for making a mess of it, mathematical elegance is not a dispensable luxury, but a matter of life and death. -- Edsger W. Dijkstra: My Hopes of Computing Science (EWD 709) http://www.cs.utexas.edu/users/EWD/ewd07xx/EWD709.PDF