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From: David Kastrup <dak@gnu.org>
To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
Subject: Re: `save-excursion' defeated by `set-buffer'
Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 23:40:47 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87sjuulhu8.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: jwvfwr2ures.fsf-monnier+gnu.emacs.help@gnu.org

Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> writes:

>> `save-excursion' defeated by `set-buffer'
> [...]
>>  (save-excursion
>>    (set-buffer blub)
>>    ...
>>    )
>
>> Save point, mark, and current buffer; execute BODY; restore those things
>
>> would expect previous buffer restored, don't understand
>> that warning.
>
> The difference between save-excursion and save-current-buffer is that
> the first doesn't just save&restore the current buffer but also "point &
> mark".  But if you do `set-buffer' right after save-excursion then most
> likely you will change neither point nor mark in the original buffer,

"most likely".  So `save-excursion' is most likely defeated by
`set-buffer'.

> so the extra work performed by save-excursion compared to
> save-current-buffer will be useless.  Now that's just a waste of
> resources but is otherwise harmless.
>
> Unless of course `blub' is already the current buffer to start with.
>
> I.e. whether point movement in "..." is undone by save-excursion will
> depend dynamically upon whether the current buffer happens to be `blub',
> which leads to subtle bugs.  Hence the warning.

So the warning tells us "`save-excursion' defeated by `set-buffer'" in
order to warn us against the possibility that `save-excursion' may
actually _not_ defeated by `set-buffer'.

Small wonder nobody understands what the warning is supposed to be for.

-- 
David Kastrup


  parent reply	other threads:[~2011-03-10 22:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 78+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <mailman.0.1299085819.4487.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2011-03-02 20:54 ` `save-excursion' defeated by `set-buffer' Uday Reddy
2011-03-05  4:28 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-03-10 19:57   ` Andreas Röhler
2011-03-11  1:07     ` Leo
2011-03-11  1:28     ` Stefan Monnier
2011-03-11  8:52       ` Andreas Röhler
     [not found]       ` <mailman.25.1299833256.26376.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2011-03-11  9:54         ` David Kastrup
2011-03-11 11:09           ` Andreas Röhler
     [not found]           ` <mailman.10.1299841456.13496.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2011-03-11 11:38             ` David Kastrup
2011-03-11 15:52         ` Stefan Monnier
2011-03-12  8:59           ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-03-12 19:00             ` Andreas Röhler
2011-03-12 19:56               ` Drew Adams
2011-03-12 20:27                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-03-12 22:20                   ` Drew Adams
2011-03-14 18:59                 ` Juanma Barranquero
2011-03-14 21:17                   ` Drew Adams
     [not found]               ` <mailman.6.1299959800.9013.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2011-03-13  3:00                 ` Uday Reddy
2011-03-13 18:22                   ` Drew Adams
     [not found]                   ` <mailman.0.1300040583.10860.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2011-03-14  1:04                     ` Uday Reddy
2011-03-14  8:43                       ` Drew Adams
     [not found]             ` <mailman.4.1299956141.9013.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2011-03-12 22:29               ` Tim X
2011-03-13  7:15                 ` Andreas Röhler
2011-03-13 18:23                   ` Drew Adams
2011-03-13 12:46                 ` Uday S Reddy
2011-03-14  8:47                   ` Drew Adams
     [not found]                   ` <mailman.7.1300092490.2602.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2011-03-14 12:22                     ` Uday Reddy
2011-03-14 14:20                     ` Uday S Reddy
2011-03-14 17:36                       ` Drew Adams
2011-03-14 23:20                         ` Uday S Reddy
2011-03-15  3:55                           ` Drew Adams
     [not found]                       ` <mailman.14.1300124226.2531.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2011-03-15 14:39                         ` Stefan Monnier
2011-03-15 15:59                           ` Drew Adams
     [not found]                           ` <mailman.2.1300204800.1264.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2011-03-15 17:46                             ` Stefan Monnier
2011-03-15 18:55                               ` Drew Adams
2011-03-14 14:18                   ` Andreas Röhler
     [not found]                   ` <mailman.5.1300111985.27831.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2011-03-14 14:54                     ` Uday Reddy
     [not found]                 ` <mailman.5.1300000253.31664.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2011-03-13 14:16                   ` Uday Reddy
2011-03-13 18:25                     ` Drew Adams
     [not found]                     ` <mailman.2.1300040743.10860.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2011-03-13 20:48                       ` Uday Reddy
2011-03-14  0:31                         ` Drew Adams
     [not found]                 ` <mailman.4.1300066631.25374.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2011-03-14 14:34                   ` Stefan Monnier
2011-03-13  2:11               ` Uday Reddy
2011-03-13 18:26                 ` Drew Adams
     [not found]           ` <mailman.5.1299920357.7270.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2011-03-12  9:34             ` David Kastrup
2011-03-12 10:12               ` Eli Zaretskii
     [not found]               ` <mailman.10.1299924724.7270.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2011-03-12 10:42                 ` David Kastrup
2011-03-12 12:28                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-03-12 15:17                   ` Uday Reddy
2011-03-12 15:25                     ` David Kastrup
2011-03-13  2:40                       ` Uday Reddy
2011-03-14 14:25                         ` Stefan Monnier
2011-03-14 17:26                           ` Andreas Röhler
     [not found]                           ` <mailman.11.1300123292.2531.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2011-03-15 14:35                             ` Stefan Monnier
2011-03-15 14:47                               ` David Kastrup
2011-03-15 15:19                               ` PJ Weisberg
2011-03-15 16:00                               ` Drew Adams
     [not found]                               ` <mailman.6.1300202904.14512.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2011-03-15 17:42                                 ` Stefan Monnier
     [not found]                               ` <mailman.3.1300204850.1264.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2011-03-15 17:49                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-03-15 18:56                                   ` Drew Adams
2011-03-15 21:30                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2011-03-15 19:02                                   ` Jason Earl
2011-03-15 20:55                                     ` Drew Adams
2011-03-16  4:31                                     ` rusi
2011-03-16  8:11                                       ` David Kastrup
2011-03-17  3:46                                         ` rusi
2011-03-17  7:10                                           ` rusi
2011-03-17  8:29                                             ` Antoine Levitt
     [not found]                                   ` <mailman.1.1300215374.6982.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2011-03-16 12:05                                     ` Uday S Reddy
2011-03-12 22:18             ` Tim X
2011-03-11 23:06         ` Uday Reddy
2011-03-10 22:40   ` David Kastrup [this message]
2011-03-11  2:46     ` Stefan Monnier
2011-04-01  3:20 ` rusi
2011-04-01 12:39   ` Uday Reddy
2011-03-02 17:12 Andreas Röhler
2011-03-03  4:58 ` Le Wang
     [not found] ` <mailman.7.1299128292.20537.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2011-03-13 15:05   ` Uday Reddy

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