From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Emanuel Berg Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: editor and word processor history Date: Fri, 30 May 2014 01:51:00 +0200 Organization: Aioe.org NNTP Server Message-ID: <87sinskuu3.fsf@debian.uxu> References: <87ha4d64r2.fsf@robertthorpeconsulting.com> <87bnuho13m.fsf@debian.uxu> <874n09nz3c.fsf_-_@debian.uxu> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1401407734 22899 80.91.229.3 (29 May 2014 23:55:34 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 29 May 2014 23:55:34 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri May 30 01:55:25 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1WqAAO-0006fn-Ut for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 30 May 2014 01:55:25 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:50798 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WqAAO-00009C-KM for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 29 May 2014 19:55:24 -0400 Original-Path: usenet.stanford.edu!news.tele.dk!news.tele.dk!small.news.tele.dk!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed3.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!news.stack.nl!aioe.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help Original-Lines: 28 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: SIvZRMPqRkkTHAHL6NkRuw.user.speranza.aioe.org Original-X-Complaints-To: abuse@aioe.org User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3 (gnu/linux) X-Notice: Filtered by postfilter v. 0.8.2 Cancel-Lock: sha1:mYyu1n6X4xhrQNdw+bR0dPfZs1A= Mail-Copies-To: never Original-Xref: usenet.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:205688 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:97958 Archived-At: Glyn Millington writes: > If you are running a unix-style system Ha-ha, don't insult me :) > chances are that ed is still there. Try 'man ed'. Ex > and vi are likely to be there too. On 64-bit Debian Wheezy, ed is not installed by default but it is available (for example) in the Jessie repositories. I can't find ex or plain vi, though there are many forks of vi (vile - "vi like Emacs", nvi - a 4.4BSD vi, etc.) aside from vim, which is there (also in many flavours), of course. Interestingly, I have a "vi" (by way of several links actually /usr/bin/vim.tiny) and I don't remember installing that. I remember installing Emacs, which isn't installed by default which of course it should be. (On the other hand, installing with aptitude (or apt-get) is so easy I don't see what it matters really.) -- underground experts united: http://user.it.uu.se/~embe8573