* Emacs 25 size and static linking
@ 2018-01-10 1:06 Robert Thorpe
2018-01-10 3:41 ` Eli Zaretskii
0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Robert Thorpe @ 2018-01-10 1:06 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: help-gnu-emacs
I use Emacs 25 on MS Windows.
I've noticed that the executable for Emacs 25 is much larger than the
executable was for Emacs 24. It's nearly 10 times larger.
I presume this is because some libraries have been statically linked
into Emacs. I expect that means that the MS Windows user doesn't have
to install those libraries separately?
Is this correct?
If so, which libraries have been put in and which no longer need
separate installation?
BR,
Robert Thorpe
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* Re: Emacs 25 size and static linking
2018-01-10 1:06 Emacs 25 size and static linking Robert Thorpe
@ 2018-01-10 3:41 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-01-10 21:21 ` Tomas Nordin
0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Eli Zaretskii @ 2018-01-10 3:41 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: help-gnu-emacs
> From: Robert Thorpe <rt@robertthorpeconsulting.com>
> Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2018 01:06:52 +0000
>
> I use Emacs 25 on MS Windows.
>
> I've noticed that the executable for Emacs 25 is much larger than the
> executable was for Emacs 24. It's nearly 10 times larger.
>
> I presume this is because some libraries have been statically linked
> into Emacs. I expect that means that the MS Windows user doesn't have
> to install those libraries separately?
>
> Is this correct?
No, I think the Emacs 24 binary you were using was stripped. What is
its size, and what is the size of the Emacs 25 binary?
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* Re: Emacs 25 size and static linking
2018-01-10 3:41 ` Eli Zaretskii
@ 2018-01-10 21:21 ` Tomas Nordin
2018-01-11 3:41 ` Eli Zaretskii
0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Tomas Nordin @ 2018-01-10 21:21 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Eli Zaretskii, help-gnu-emacs
Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:
>> From: Robert Thorpe <rt@robertthorpeconsulting.com>
>> Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2018 01:06:52 +0000
>>
>> I use Emacs 25 on MS Windows.
>>
>> I've noticed that the executable for Emacs 25 is much larger than the
>> executable was for Emacs 24. It's nearly 10 times larger.
I see something similar, see below.
>> I presume this is because some libraries have been statically linked
>> into Emacs. I expect that means that the MS Windows user doesn't
>> have to install those libraries separately?
>>
>> Is this correct?
>
> No, I think the Emacs 24 binary you were using was stripped. What is
> its size, and what is the size of the Emacs 25 binary?
Here is the listings of the emacs bin directory for respective version
on the windows machine I use
$ ls -hl emacs-24.5/bin
total 26M
-rwxr-xr-x 1 username 1049089 577K Oct 26 2016 addpm.exe*
-rwxr-xr-x 1 username 1049089 956K Oct 26 2016 ctags.exe*
-rwxr-xr-x 1 username 1049089 713K Oct 26 2016 ebrowse.exe*
-rwxr-xr-x 1 username 1049089 8.8M Oct 26 2016 emacs.exe*
-rwxr-xr-x 1 username 1049089 8.8M Oct 26 2016 emacs-24.5.exe*
-rwxr-xr-x 1 username 1049089 997K Oct 26 2016 emacsclient.exe*
-rwxr-xr-x 1 username 1049089 652K Oct 26 2016 emacsclientw.exe*
-rwxr-xr-x 1 username 1049089 953K Oct 26 2016 etags.exe*
-rwxr-xr-x 1 username 1049089 7.0K Oct 26 2016 grep-changelog*
-rwxr-xr-x 1 username 1049089 1.1M Jan 31 2017 libiconv-2.dll*
-rwxr-xr-x 1 username 1049089 1.1M Jan 31 2017 libxml2-2.dll*
-rwxr-xr-x 1 username 1049089 520K Oct 26 2016 libXpm.dll*
-rwxr-xr-x 1 username 1049089 483K Oct 26 2016 runemacs.exe*
-rwxr-xr-x 1 username 1049089 71K Jan 31 2017 zlib1.dll*
$ ls -hl emacs-25.3_1/bin
total 205M
-rwxr-xr-x 1 username 1049089 2.3M Jan 4 11:54 addpm.exe*
-rwxr-xr-x 1 username 1049089 2.5M Jan 4 11:54 ctags.exe*
-rwxr-xr-x 1 username 1049089 1.9M Jan 4 11:54 ebrowse.exe*
-rwxr-xr-x 1 username 1049089 95M Jan 4 11:54 emacs.exe*
-rwxr-xr-x 1 username 1049089 95M Jan 4 11:54 emacs-25.3.exe*
-rwxr-xr-x 1 username 1049089 2.5M Jan 4 11:54 emacsclient.exe*
-rwxr-xr-x 1 username 1049089 1.9M Jan 4 11:54 emacsclientw.exe*
-rwxr-xr-x 1 username 1049089 2.5M Jan 4 11:54 etags.exe*
-rwxr-xr-x 1 username 1049089 76K Jan 4 11:54 libXpm-noX4.dll*
-rwxr-xr-x 1 username 1049089 1.7M Jan 4 11:54 runemacs.exe*
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* Re: Emacs 25 size and static linking
2018-01-10 21:21 ` Tomas Nordin
@ 2018-01-11 3:41 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-01-12 23:48 ` Robert Thorpe
0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Eli Zaretskii @ 2018-01-11 3:41 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: help-gnu-emacs
> From: Tomas Nordin <tomasn@posteo.net>
> Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2018 22:21:51 +0100
>
> > No, I think the Emacs 24 binary you were using was stripped. What is
> > its size, and what is the size of the Emacs 25 binary?
>
> Here is the listings of the emacs bin directory for respective version
> on the windows machine I use
>
> $ ls -hl emacs-24.5/bin
> total 26M
> -rwxr-xr-x 1 username 1049089 577K Oct 26 2016 addpm.exe*
> -rwxr-xr-x 1 username 1049089 956K Oct 26 2016 ctags.exe*
> -rwxr-xr-x 1 username 1049089 713K Oct 26 2016 ebrowse.exe*
> -rwxr-xr-x 1 username 1049089 8.8M Oct 26 2016 emacs.exe*
This is a normal size for a stripped binary.
> $ ls -hl emacs-25.3_1/bin
> total 205M
> -rwxr-xr-x 1 username 1049089 2.3M Jan 4 11:54 addpm.exe*
> -rwxr-xr-x 1 username 1049089 2.5M Jan 4 11:54 ctags.exe*
> -rwxr-xr-x 1 username 1049089 1.9M Jan 4 11:54 ebrowse.exe*
> -rwxr-xr-x 1 username 1049089 95M Jan 4 11:54 emacs.exe*
And this is a normal size for an unstripped binary with full debug
info.
So my hypothesis seems correct, and you have nothing to worry about.
It's not a bug or some other problem, that's intended.
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* Re: Emacs 25 size and static linking
2018-01-11 3:41 ` Eli Zaretskii
@ 2018-01-12 23:48 ` Robert Thorpe
2018-01-13 7:43 ` Eli Zaretskii
0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Robert Thorpe @ 2018-01-12 23:48 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Eli Zaretskii; +Cc: help-gnu-emacs
Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:
>> From: Tomas Nordin <tomasn@posteo.net>
>> Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2018 22:21:51 +0100
>>
>> > No, I think the Emacs 24 binary you were using was stripped. What is
>> > its size, and what is the size of the Emacs 25 binary?
>>
>> Here is the listings of the emacs bin directory for respective version
>> on the windows machine I use
...
>> -rwxr-xr-x 1 username 1049089 2.3M Jan 4 11:54 addpm.exe*
>> -rwxr-xr-x 1 username 1049089 2.5M Jan 4 11:54 ctags.exe*
>> -rwxr-xr-x 1 username 1049089 1.9M Jan 4 11:54 ebrowse.exe*
>> -rwxr-xr-x 1 username 1049089 95M Jan 4 11:54 emacs.exe*
>
> And this is a normal size for an unstripped binary with full debug
> info.
>
> So my hypothesis seems correct, and you have nothing to worry about.
> It's not a bug or some other problem, that's intended.
I see, that explains it. Thank you Eli and Tomas.
Does this mean that Emacs 25 needs all the same libraries as Emacs 24.5
if you want all the features?
So, libxml2, libiconv, the image libraries, etc.
BR,
Robert Thorpe
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* Re: Emacs 25 size and static linking
2018-01-12 23:48 ` Robert Thorpe
@ 2018-01-13 7:43 ` Eli Zaretskii
0 siblings, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Eli Zaretskii @ 2018-01-13 7:43 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: help-gnu-emacs
> From: Robert Thorpe <rt@robertthorpeconsulting.com>
> Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
> Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2018 23:48:04 +0000
>
> Does this mean that Emacs 25 needs all the same libraries as Emacs 24.5
> if you want all the features?
>
> So, libxml2, libiconv, the image libraries, etc.
Yes. But you may wish to refresh those libraries, as some of them
might have released new versions, and Emacs 25 could have more
functionality with the newer versions.
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