From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Huchler Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Is Elisp really that slow? Date: Sun, 02 Jun 2019 12:49:52 +0200 Message-ID: <87sgssqn1r.fsf@mail.de> References: <20190515210924.sijzy6mnpgzkt4gm@Ergus> <83ftpecwu1.fsf@gnu.org> <20190516161408.4dov3dwk5h4yoizn@Ergus> <838sv6cmwt.fsf@gnu.org> <20190516202327.5cgy2s4kppy3ahxa@Ergus> <871s0yqg2i.fsf@telefonica.net> <3210C8E9-7A74-47D6-81A0-470948E6D09C@gmail.com> <87r28xq0j1.fsf@telefonica.net> <20190517055202.ted62gt6hqcip7xt@Ergus> <83mujlbgjh.fsf@gnu.org> <20190517123551.vumasyoyr5bv5voq@Ergus> <835zq9b4vi.fsf@gnu.org> <86lfym1v3d.fsf@zoho.eu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="81496"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.1 (gnu/linux) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Jun 02 12:51:35 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1hXO5L-000Kyu-EH for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 02 Jun 2019 12:51:31 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:47506 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hXO5K-0000fe-EF for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 02 Jun 2019 06:51:30 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:60063) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hXO59-0000fS-RC for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 02 Jun 2019 06:51:20 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hXO3t-00070A-QP for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 02 Jun 2019 06:50:02 -0400 Original-Received: from [195.159.176.226] (port=33010 helo=blaine.gmane.org) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hXO3t-0006x1-JH for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 02 Jun 2019 06:50:01 -0400 Original-Received: from list by blaine.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1hXO3p-000JIi-Rb for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 02 Jun 2019 12:49:57 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Cancel-Lock: sha1:eni2O8llXlUG4XD/9D5CLptvCOY= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 195.159.176.226 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:120724 Archived-At: Emanuel Berg via help-gnu-emacs writes: > Are we talking about being able to tell what > line point is at, to go to a specific line, > either thru a button or a manual command, and > so on? > > If so, isn't that like one of the most basic > feature any editor whatsoever should have? Showing lines sure goto line yes should be there but do I find it important? Not really, because you rarely remember a line number in a big file, you either make bookmarks or move with the search ability. And on the screen you are on movement oven forward-block / forward-line (word / sexp-forward) should not be almost everytime better. If you have a descent big file you have 4 digit line numbers easy, so you have to press a key for goto-line + 4 digits + enter 6 keys. show me a position you can't reach with 6 keys with forward/backward block/line. Also it's not only the amount if you want 6 blocks forward you can press the same key 6 times which is easier then typing in a number with 6 different numbers, and if you want to go to a specific point in a line search is another good alternative 1 button for search start 2. 2 3 4 letters 3 enter. So moving through typing in line numbers for cursor movement seems to me very seldom a good way to operate.