From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Robert Thorpe Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: not good proposal: "C-z " reserved for users Date: Wed, 17 Feb 2021 08:55:03 +0000 Message-ID: <87sg5v13bs.fsf@robertthorpeconsulting.com> References: <87ft1xurht.fsf@zoho.eu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="39494"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org To: Emanuel Berg Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Feb 17 09:56:04 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1lCIcu-000ABd-Je for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 17 Feb 2021 09:56:04 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:45328 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lCIct-0001B2-MM for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 17 Feb 2021 03:56:03 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:58608) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lCIcZ-0001Am-HU for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 17 Feb 2021 03:55:43 -0500 Original-Received: from outbound-smtp46.blacknight.com ([46.22.136.58]:51885) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lCIcW-0007q1-Uk for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 17 Feb 2021 03:55:42 -0500 Original-Received: from mail.blacknight.com (pemlinmail03.blacknight.ie [81.17.254.16]) by outbound-smtp46.blacknight.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BD9A0FAE13 for ; Wed, 17 Feb 2021 08:55:36 +0000 (GMT) Original-Received: (qmail 10034 invoked from network); 17 Feb 2021 08:55:36 -0000 Original-Received: from unknown (HELO rt-inspiron-3480) (rt@robertthorpeconsulting.com@[51.37.90.145]) by 81.17.254.9 with ESMTPSA (AES256-SHA encrypted, authenticated); 17 Feb 2021 08:55:36 -0000 In-Reply-To: <87ft1xurht.fsf@zoho.eu> (message from Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor on Mon, 15 Feb 2021 19:15:42 +0100) Received-SPF: pass client-ip=46.22.136.58; envelope-from=rt@robertthorpeconsulting.com; helo=outbound-smtp46.blacknight.com X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.9 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:128127 Archived-At: Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor writes: > Second, what is it you want to do with it, that cannot be done > from the shell, but it _can_ be done with "shell job control"? ... > kill, top, nice and renice deal with processes and they can be > - what am I saying - they ARE - used from the shell. So just > fire up a new pane in tmux and use them all you want, happens > every day. I never said that shell job control is the only way to achieve these objectives. But, it is a very quick way of doing it. Opening another tmux tab then running something like kill or top is much more long-winded. It takes dozens of keypresses rather than just one. Like I said, try using shell job control and I'm sure you'll like it. It's especially useful for the kind of process that tend to take over your entire computer and make it slow. I very much doubt that Debian have given you a version of Zsh without job-control. I expect it's disabled by a configuration somewhere. BR, Robert Thorpe