From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Emanuel Berg Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Functions with multiple optional arguments Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2022 05:07:06 +0200 Message-ID: <87sfjdkjhh.fsf@dataswamp.org> References: <87sfjn2ibz.fsf@dataswamp.org> <87lepeyvx6.fsf@dataswamp.org> <87fsfhluq9.fsf@dataswamp.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="35672"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Cancel-Lock: sha1:JrbSMBb8A52FMbF43gMUvGBtsyM= Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Oct 24 16:42:58 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1omyfJ-00093L-Tl for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 24 Oct 2022 16:42:57 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1omxqA-000676-42; Mon, 24 Oct 2022 09:50:06 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1omno7-0005Ok-Pg for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 23 Oct 2022 23:07:21 -0400 Original-Received: from ciao.gmane.io ([116.202.254.214]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1omno5-00055g-7p for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 23 Oct 2022 23:07:19 -0400 Original-Received: from list by ciao.gmane.io with local (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1omno1-0004S9-VI for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 24 Oct 2022 05:07:13 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Mail-Copies-To: never Received-SPF: pass client-ip=116.202.254.214; envelope-from=geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; helo=ciao.gmane.io X-Spam_score_int: -16 X-Spam_score: -1.7 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.7 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.249, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 24 Oct 2022 09:50:02 -0400 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:140324 Archived-At: Jean Louis wrote: >>> I do not load what is not needed. >> >> Well, it's not about what's needed or not, there are >> obviously several ways to do this as we have seen in this >> thread already, and what `cl-defun' offers is another such >> solution, one that some people would say is more clean than >> the solutions with `or' and `setq'/`let' ... >> >>> And Emacs Lisp is not Common Lisp, no need to conform >>> to it. >> >> Again, there is no need to do any of this but it remains >> that `cl-defun' is an Elisp macro ... > > Let us say much of code comes from Common Lisp, then there > is no need to rewrite too much, and then one uses Common > Lisp related macros. It makes sense. ? > But when code is much of Emacs Lisp, there is no need > for it. ??? `cl-defun' is Elisp, if you need it or not is up to you ... -- underground experts united https://dataswamp.org/~incal