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From: Pascal Bourguignon <spam@mouse-potato.com>
Subject: Re: Making Emacs more newbie friendly
Date: 20 Mar 2005 00:16:53 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87r7ibxm3e.fsf@thalassa.informatimago.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: opsnv6rrb0p52o26@home-ca12fabbc0

PT <mailshield.gg@mailnull.com> writes:
> We should answer this question first, because if attracting more users
> to  Emacs is not really a priority then this thread is completely
> pointless.

Well, it seems RMS had success in teaching secretaries use emacs and
even "customize" it (programming emacs lisp without telling them they
were programming!).

I think that ultimately it would be a very good thing for programmers
to have more users knowing applications such as emacs, which can be
customized programming in lisp, and knowing a little programming to do
so, because we programmers know better write programs than "use"
applications (who can stand to cut-and-paste 400 times instead of
writting a small emacs lisp function for an automatic systematic
edit?), and because it would open the users' minds letting them
realize that they need programmers to write complex programs instead
of sweating with Microsoft^W proprietary unprogrammable applications.

-- 
__Pascal Bourguignon__                     http://www.informatimago.com/
Small brave carnivores
Kill pine cones and mosquitoes
Fear vacuum cleaner

  parent reply	other threads:[~2005-03-19 23:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 123+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-03-18 21:12 Making Emacs more newbie friendly PT
2005-03-18 21:57 ` Pascal Bourguignon
2005-03-19  5:40   ` PT
2005-03-19  7:57     ` rgb
2005-03-19  9:51       ` David Kastrup
2005-03-19 10:46         ` Steinar Børmer
2005-03-19 11:01           ` David Kastrup
2005-03-20  0:42             ` Steinar Børmer
2005-03-19 20:16         ` Miles Bader
     [not found]         ` <mailman.4427.1111265353.32256.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2005-03-19 20:53           ` David Kastrup
2005-03-19 10:56       ` Eli Zaretskii
     [not found]       ` <mailman.4380.1111231068.32256.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2005-03-19 14:23         ` PT
2005-03-19 15:08           ` David Kastrup
2005-03-19 15:45           ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-03-19 10:47     ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-03-19 14:34       ` nfreimann
2005-03-19 15:49         ` Gian Uberto Lauri
2005-03-19 16:13           ` nfreimann
     [not found]           ` <mailman.4406.1111250911.32256.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2005-03-19 19:12             ` Shawn Betts
2005-03-19 19:35               ` David Kastrup
2005-03-19 21:00                 ` Miles Bader
     [not found]                 ` <mailman.4435.1111267700.32256.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2005-03-19 22:42                   ` David Kastrup
2005-03-19 15:50         ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-03-19 12:42     ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2005-03-19 14:56       ` PT
2005-03-19 15:37         ` David Kastrup
2005-03-19 17:45         ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2005-03-19 18:07           ` PT
2005-03-19 18:15             ` David Kastrup
2005-03-19 18:24               ` PT
2005-03-19 18:34                 ` David Kastrup
2005-04-09 18:01         ` Nathan Hess
     [not found]     ` <mailman.4378.1111230698.32256.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2005-03-19 13:41       ` Brian Elmegaard
2005-03-19 14:31         ` David Kastrup
2005-03-19 16:04           ` Lee Sau Dan
2005-03-20 12:33             ` Brian Elmegaard
2005-03-20 17:33               ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2005-03-21  7:39                 ` Brian Elmegaard
2005-03-21 10:07                   ` Joe Corneli
2005-03-21 11:27                   ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2005-03-22 11:25                     ` Brian Elmegaard
2005-03-21 11:54                   ` Klaus Straubinger
2005-03-21 12:37                   ` David Kastrup
2005-03-20 12:27           ` Brian Elmegaard
2005-03-20 12:47             ` Jason Rumney
2005-03-21 18:30               ` Drew Adams
2005-03-19 15:37         ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-03-19 17:09         ` Stefan Monnier
2005-03-20 12:42           ` Brian Elmegaard
     [not found]         ` <mailman.4399.1111247782.32256.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2005-03-20 12:39           ` Brian Elmegaard
2005-03-20 20:27             ` Eli Zaretskii
     [not found]             ` <mailman.4504.1111351877.32256.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2005-03-20 21:05               ` David Kastrup
2005-03-21  8:11               ` Brian Elmegaard
2005-03-21 19:56                 ` Eli Zaretskii
     [not found]                 ` <mailman.4626.1111436194.32256.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2005-03-22 11:33                   ` Brian Elmegaard
2005-03-19 14:52       ` PT
2005-03-19 15:14         ` David Hansen
2005-03-19 15:33         ` David Kastrup
2005-03-19 16:00           ` PT
2005-03-19 16:22             ` David Kastrup
2005-03-19 16:57               ` PT
2005-03-19 17:16                 ` David Kastrup
2005-03-19 17:55                   ` PT
2005-03-19 18:03                     ` David Kastrup
2005-03-20 12:52                       ` Brian Elmegaard
2005-03-20 17:44                         ` David Kastrup
2005-03-20 21:49                           ` Alan Mackenzie
2005-03-22 11:46                             ` Brian Elmegaard
2005-03-22 13:09                               ` David Kastrup
2005-03-23  7:29                                 ` Brian Elmegaard
2005-03-21  8:17                           ` Brian Elmegaard
2005-03-19 18:01                   ` PT
2005-03-19 20:45                     ` Miles Bader
2005-03-20 17:43                     ` Alan Mackenzie
2005-03-19 18:05                 ` Shawn Betts
2005-03-19 18:15                   ` PT
2005-03-20 17:51                 ` Alan Mackenzie
2005-03-19 17:17             ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-03-19 23:16             ` Pascal Bourguignon [this message]
2005-03-20 11:49           ` Steinar Børmer
2005-03-20 13:06             ` Floyd L. Davidson
2005-03-19 16:05         ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-03-19 18:16         ` Shawn Betts
2005-03-19 23:34           ` Pascal Bourguignon
2005-03-20  0:45           ` David Kastrup
     [not found]         ` <mailman.4404.1111249572.32256.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2005-03-20 11:51           ` Steinar Børmer
2005-03-20 16:31         ` ken
     [not found]         ` <mailman.4485.1111338015.32256.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2005-03-20 23:35           ` Floyd L. Davidson
2005-03-21  4:44             ` Sean Richards
2005-03-21 11:00               ` Floyd L. Davidson
2005-03-22 20:33                 ` Sean Richards
2005-03-19 15:45     ` Pascal Bourguignon
2005-03-19 15:54       ` Gian Uberto Lauri
2005-03-19 17:25       ` Eli Zaretskii
     [not found]       ` <mailman.4413.1111254615.32256.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2005-03-19 23:33         ` Pascal Bourguignon
2005-03-20  4:37           ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-03-20  9:07             ` Gian Uberto Lauri
2005-03-20 11:30               ` nfreimann
2005-03-20 12:16                 ` Gian Uberto Lauri
     [not found]                 ` <mailman.4474.1111322832.32256.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2005-03-20 18:04                   ` Joe Bush
2005-03-21  8:23                     ` Brian Elmegaard
     [not found]               ` <mailman.4470.1111319220.32256.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2005-03-20 13:01                 ` Floyd L. Davidson
2005-03-20 17:37                 ` David Kastrup
     [not found]           ` <mailman.4443.1111294657.32256.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2005-03-20 15:29             ` Pascal Bourguignon
2005-03-20 15:58               ` Joe Corneli
     [not found]               ` <mailman.4479.1111335526.32256.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2005-03-20 20:33                 ` Jochen Küpper
2005-03-20 23:50                   ` Joe Corneli
2005-03-20 12:59       ` Brian Elmegaard
2005-03-20 17:45         ` David Kastrup
2005-03-21  8:19           ` Brian Elmegaard
2005-03-19 18:42     ` Shawn Betts
2005-03-19 19:27       ` David Kastrup
2005-03-20  6:55       ` Joe Corneli
2005-03-18 22:11 ` Peter Dyballa
2005-03-19 17:17 ` Jason Rumney
2005-03-19 18:10   ` Floyd L. Davidson
2005-03-22  1:59     ` Cristian Gutierrez
2005-03-21  9:56 ` Mathias Dahl
2005-03-21 19:23 ` Peter K. Lee
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2005-03-21 12:53 nfreimann
2005-03-21 15:22 ` Joe Corneli
     [not found] <mailman.4566.1111411378.32256.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2005-03-21 13:21 ` Klaus Straubinger
2005-03-21 21:44 ` Miles Bader

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