From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stephen Berman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: xdisaster Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2007 23:19:44 +0200 Message-ID: <87r6qlwd1r.fsf@escher.local.home> References: <87y7kyx7hu.fsf@lion.rapttech.com.au> <87d529xioa.fsf@lion.rapttech.com.au> <87slb3wc8b.fsf@lion.rapttech.com.au> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1176672024 23391 80.91.229.12 (15 Apr 2007 21:20:24 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2007 21:20:24 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Apr 15 23:20:18 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1HdC8w-0000Ac-60 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 15 Apr 2007 23:20:18 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HdCDT-0008Iq-8w for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 15 Apr 2007 17:24:59 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1HdCDI-0008Ig-8L for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 15 Apr 2007 17:24:48 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1HdCDF-0008IS-RM for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 15 Apr 2007 17:24:47 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HdCDF-0008IP-Ma for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 15 Apr 2007 17:24:45 -0400 Original-Received: from main.gmane.org ([80.91.229.2] helo=ciao.gmane.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1HdC8h-0002c9-R9 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 15 Apr 2007 17:20:04 -0400 Original-Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1HdC8Y-0000A2-Dj for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 15 Apr 2007 23:19:54 +0200 Original-Received: from i577bef85.versanet.de ([87.123.239.133]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 15 Apr 2007 23:19:54 +0200 Original-Received: from Stephen.Berman by i577bef85.versanet.de with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 15 Apr 2007 23:19:54 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 17 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: i577bef85.versanet.de User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.0.97 (gnu/linux) X-detected-kernel: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:42703 Archived-At: On Sat, 14 Apr 2007 19:12:52 +1000 Tim X wrote: > Using customize is quick, avoids silly errors that take time to > debug and allows me to spend time on more rewarding activities. It > also has the advantage of presenting all the user customizable > aspects of a package in a convenient and consistent manner. Moreover, (as with any code) using customize tests its correctness and consistency, and may uncover bugs in the code; in particular, since options set by the Custom interface are meant to be evaluated at the end of the user's other initializations, by using that interface rather than setting the options earlier in your init file, you may find subtle ordering bugs the the Custom code. This happened to me several times recently, and the bug reports I submitted resulted in quick fixes. Steve Berman