From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Sven Bretfeld Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: mouse-less emacs Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2008 00:52:48 +0100 Message-ID: <87r6g54g4v.fsf@kamaloka.dhatu> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0130603288==" X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1201305217 8717 80.91.229.12 (25 Jan 2008 23:53:37 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2008 23:53:37 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Jan 26 00:53:57 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1JIYMn-00066w-Vn for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 26 Jan 2008 00:53:50 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JIYMN-0002YK-Hp for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 25 Jan 2008 18:53:23 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JIYM4-0002Ul-1i for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 25 Jan 2008 18:53:04 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JIYM1-0002QZ-Hi for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 25 Jan 2008 18:53:02 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JIYM1-0002Q8-Ds for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 25 Jan 2008 18:53:01 -0500 Original-Received: from viefep18-int.chello.at ([213.46.255.22] helo=viefep23-int.chello.at) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JIYM0-0007fb-UM for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 25 Jan 2008 18:53:01 -0500 Original-Received: from kamaloka.dhatu ([80.219.162.86]) by viefep23-int.chello.at (InterMail vM.7.08.02.00 201-2186-121-20061213) with ESMTP id <20080125235257.CHWN4993.viefep23-int.chello.at@kamaloka.dhatu> for ; Sat, 26 Jan 2008 00:52:57 +0100 In-Reply-To: (sahteaccount@gmail.com's message of "Thu, 24 Jan 2008 21:01:29 -0800 (PST)") User-Agent: Gnus/5.110006 (No Gnus v0.6) Emacs/23.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Solaris 10 (beta) X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:50969 Archived-At: --===============0130603288== Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature" --=-=-= Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable sahteaccount@gmail.com writes: > I am a fairly new linux and emacs user. When I was using a text editor > under windows, I rarely used the mouse. I used ctrl+shift+arrow keys > to select text and ctrl+c and ctrl+v to do copy paste stuff. In Emacs you don't need a mouse at all. That's one of the (many) reasons why I use Emacs for everything. You should read at least a minimal amount of documentation, for example one of the many Emacs tutorials on the web. > So far in linux (and emacs) whenever I need to copy/paste something, I > highlight the text with mouse and then middle-click the mouse to paste > it. What would be the shortcuts to do same things in emacs with > keyboard? Especially equivalent of ctrl+shift+arrow key in emacs? =2D C-SPC to set the mark (i.e. to start selecting text, C-SPC means Ctrl and Space pressed together), arrow-keys to select the text. After some time in Emacs you may find it easier to use Emacs' innate key-bindings for cursor-movements instead of arrow keys. =2D M-w to copy (M means Meta and corresponds to your Alt-key) =2D C-y to yank (i.e. paste, C means Ctrl) I don't know what ctrl+shift+arrow does in Windows, so I can't tell you the Emacs equivalent.=20 > Also ctrl+c and ctrl+v are conveniently located on the keyboard. To my > despair ctrl+c has a different meaning (kill!) for linux. I don't think that's true. What's your desktop? In Gnome and KDE these key-bindings are the same as in Windows. In Linux, Ctrl-c kills commands in the bash (i.e. in a terminal or without a graphical desktop); but I don't think that this is what you have in mind. Apart From=20that (and apart from Emacs which has its own system of key-bindings), you can use Ctrl-x -c -v just like you are used to. > Finally... Undo is simply ctrl+z in windows, while linux uses that > combination to suspend the process. Emacs's ctrl+_ is difficult Is it possible that you are mixing up Linux and Emacs? C-z is suspend (iconify) in Emacs, not in Linux. This misunderstanding might also be the explanation for your Copy-Paste problem above. You can use undo in Emacs if you type C-x u (Ctrl and x together, then release these keys and press u). This might be easier to type on your keyboard. You should take some half an hour and work through the Emacs tutorial which is available if you type C-h t. It's self-explaining and you will make your first step into a greater world, Luke. Anyway, you should also read a little about using Linux. It's not Windows and many concepts and approaches are different. You are a Linuxer now, and you are welcome (if you don't continue to post to mailing-lists anonymously ;-) ). 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