From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Phil Carmody Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: basic question: going back to dired Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 17:49:24 +0300 Organization: Saunalahti Customer Message-ID: <87r69mug7f.fsf@nonospaz.fatphil.org> References: <4884DC7F.6060406@gmail.com> <819feff4-76e3-4bf8-9ece-7b47f099efc2@j22g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> <87mykaw8sb.fsf@nonospaz.fatphil.org> <87abgaw322.fsf@nonospaz.fatphil.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1216741245 3229 80.91.229.12 (22 Jul 2008 15:40:45 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 15:40:45 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Jul 22 17:41:34 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1KLJzQ-00087f-UL for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 17:41:25 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:38557 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KLJyX-0008B1-NE for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 11:40:29 -0400 Original-Path: news.stanford.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!goblin1!goblin.stu.neva.ru!newsfeed.straub-nv.de!feeder.erje.net!feeder2.news.saunalahti.fi!reader1.news.saunalahti.fi!53ab2750!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.2 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:uiEL2erXymphi7i17enXOyUQZGk= Original-Lines: 33 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 83.143.57.195 Original-X-Complaints-To: newsmaster@saunalahti.com Original-X-Trace: reader1.news.saunalahti.fi 1216738180 83.143.57.195 (Tue, 22 Jul 2008 17:49:40 EEST) Original-NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 17:49:40 EEST Original-Xref: news.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:160459 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:55807 Archived-At: "Juanma Barranquero" writes: > On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 13:50, Phil Carmody > wrote: > >> I, as a user of the software application called "emacs" >> must be familiar with that functions are bound to what >> keys in order to use that software application. > > Which is *absolutely* unrelated to whether that relationship between > keystroke and function can be found in the manual and documentation > under "keybinding" or "shortcut" or "key assignment" or any other > name. Which is what was being discussed. Well, if I didn't know what the keys did, I certainly would look under 'k' for 'key' in the manual, and been prepared to follow any lead that looked anything like 'key bindings' or 'kep mappings'. So the fact that I view them as key bindings is entirely related to where I'd hope to find documentation of them in the manual. >> An absolute assertion is false as soon as one counter-example >> is found. An absolute assertion was made. I provided a counter- >> example. > > Oh, I don't think so. Go figure. I figure that you should have stopped that first sentence after only 4 words. Phil -- Dear aunt, let's set so double the killer delete select all. -- Microsoft voice recognition live demonstration