From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: jidanni@jidanni.org Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Call in the SWAT team to shoot emacs but spare Firefox Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2011 13:00:29 +0800 Message-ID: <87r55bngnm.fsf@jidanni.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1311829244 5971 80.91.229.12 (28 Jul 2011 05:00:44 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2011 05:00:44 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Jul 28 07:00:41 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QmIi8-0000yn-IH for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 28 Jul 2011 07:00:40 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:33431 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QmIi7-0007pd-Ug for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 28 Jul 2011 01:00:39 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:43171) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QmIi3-0007pU-Qj for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 28 Jul 2011 01:00:36 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QmIi2-0001fW-Io for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 28 Jul 2011 01:00:35 -0400 Original-Received: from caiajhbdcbef.dreamhost.com ([208.97.132.145]:47047 helo=homiemail-a5.g.dreamhost.com) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QmIi2-0001fB-9b for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 28 Jul 2011 01:00:34 -0400 Original-Received: from homiemail-a5.g.dreamhost.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by homiemail-a5.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31E0770406E for ; Wed, 27 Jul 2011 22:00:32 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=jidanni.org; h=from:to:subject :date:message-id:mime-version:content-type; q=dns; s=jidanni.org ; b=hOMXpdtvDd8WULVk9bGgOq2SrZjJvkhqrm5Y5/EA+eTw4GMBcPha78ews2fb EnsjMrMyBNRz20LeC7eXvU4gDF7gHn4ZdGqIzAmRF70IKwRJV92jk0yK6W+3EhOy S047T+o0SkQVpBo42HNsvz0Yne2pnN/K2poillKMwxSKEFQ= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=jidanni.org; h=from:to :subject:date:message-id:mime-version:content-type; s= jidanni.org; bh=S5r/VTTCBaZVsc4CVpkOrWShXJQ=; b=TqZfkoU+enOns8qj CZ7ukySd++z1TwNX+aeocq7D3m3Wb37e5iC17FhzAyvV23RpZB1PyTkCpqYCJKKu gqKd+bCkmoqTFUaBX+xoZNCGAkgM0Q2fHBLNjHSsjO4wUU+KET5HCxsv/r1Iu/62 OzvIJMuToQzzoDgvmp2BHBykftI= Original-Received: from jidanni.org (218-163-2-10.dynamic.hinet.net [218.163.2.10]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: jidanni@jidanni.org) by homiemail-a5.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id C503970406A for ; Wed, 27 Jul 2011 22:00:31 -0700 (PDT) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 208.97.132.145 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:81826 Archived-At: I can't take it any longer. I start Firefox by one of the million ways one can there in emacs. Then hours later I wish to quit emacs, but... Active processes exist; kill them and exit anyway? (yes or no) That's right. Emacs demands taking Firefox along with it to the grave, It's either that, or it refuses to quit. What do I have to do? Call in the SWAT team to shoot emacs but spare its hostage Firefox? Yeah well I bet emacs has wrapped a bomb around them both so there will be no survivors ("Shoot me and I'll take out the whole process tree, motherf***er!") So does one need to write a batch(1) job wrapper script to start Firefox away from the hands of terrorism? Why can't there be a third answer to Active processes exist; kill them and exit anyway? (yes or no) i.e., "No. Don't kill them, but exit anyway." What kind of cheap 2nd hand Woolworth's software can't do that these days?