From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Thorsten Jolitz Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Whats wrong with this defcustom? Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2014 10:19:25 +0200 Message-ID: <87r414shki.fsf@gmail.com> References: <87vbqhull4.fsf@gmail.com> <87d2cprnzh.fsf@robertthorpeconsulting.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1406622010 14874 80.91.229.3 (29 Jul 2014 08:20:10 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2014 08:20:10 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Jul 29 10:20:04 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1XC2df-0007Tb-KB for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 29 Jul 2014 10:20:03 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:44161 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XC2df-00029X-5w for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 29 Jul 2014 04:20:03 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:45216) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XC2dO-000283-Qs for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 29 Jul 2014 04:19:52 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XC2dI-0006J4-VO for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 29 Jul 2014 04:19:46 -0400 Original-Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:54155) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XC2dI-0006Iy-Ou for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 29 Jul 2014 04:19:40 -0400 Original-Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1XC2dI-0007Jd-1N for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 29 Jul 2014 10:19:40 +0200 Original-Received: from e178189064.adsl.alicedsl.de ([85.178.189.64]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 29 Jul 2014 10:19:40 +0200 Original-Received: from tjolitz by e178189064.adsl.alicedsl.de with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 29 Jul 2014 10:19:40 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 31 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: e178189064.adsl.alicedsl.de User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:PhTJ9DZJnKPjjzDGX7TIzAlC2p0= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 80.91.229.3 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:98977 Archived-At: Robert Thorpe writes: > Thorsten Jolitz writes: > >> Stefan Monnier writes: > ... >> >> Ok, precision matters, so a quoted symbol is at the same time an >> unquoted *expression* that returns the symbol itself ... while an >> unquoted symbol >> in an unquoted *expression* that tries to return the symbols value (as a >> variable) ... (?) > > > Apologies if I explain things you already know. See below: > *** Welcome to IELM *** Type (describe-mode) for help. Well, I did quote the STANDARD argument in my defcustom correctly and really actually know that in an already quoted list I should not quote symbols again, but that did not prevent me from doing it wrong and then being unable to see my mistake ;) Since 'foo is (quote foo) which is an unquoted expression the docstring of `defcustom` is correct, and I did not think it through before doing my bug-report, shame on me. Thanks for your long and interesting explanations anyway! -- cheers, Thorsten