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From: Emanuel Berg <embe8573@student.uu.se>
To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Ways to use Emacs when programming C++ with Visual Studio?
Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2014 02:09:08 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87r3xfvmtn.fsf@debian.uxu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: mailman.11982.1414182986.1147.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org

Thorsten Jolitz <tjolitz@gmail.com> writes:

> I'm really new to this C++ thing, so I would
> appreciate some tips

Here is a tip: don't do it!

I'm sure it is possible to a certain extent but it'll
just require lots of work and then at the first sign
of trouble you'll start to think somewhere along the
transition it went wrong, and you'll go back there,
and it'll all be shaky until someone says you should
use some new tool or module with VS, and then you are
*really* done for...

When I did my bachelor in CS I was sent to a hospital
where they did MS Access and that IDE and VBA and
their SQL.

So I thought, let's not be a snob, I'll do it with
Emacs and MySQL and all first so I have a almost
complete understanding of the problem start-to-finish,
then I'll just go there, do it all with their crap
tools and be done with it.

First part of that plan worked out very good, but then
to use that software, I developed an intense hatred
(no exaggeration) for everything MS, everything GUI,
everything mouse... It would literally hurt my eyes
and fingers and arm to use that stuff. Mentally the
most frustrating thing was being constantly aware all
problems would vanish in zero time, would they just
allow me to use professional tools...

When I was done, the hatred actually didn't disappear
instantly, but lingered on. But now, too much time has
passed, and all those negatives I don't suffer from
anymore (because I don't use MS Access, the mouse,
etc.), so know, my system is clean of the hatred as
well.

I even wrote about this [1], if anyone is interested
in ergonomics and the like.

Your plan is actually a lot better, because you plan
on using transition tools - if you get it to work like
instantly, fine, probably if you spend several hours
step-by-step to get it to work, I'd advice not to drop
it.

Remember, in the computer world, portable and
tool-independent solutions are everywhere. If someone
says, here we do it like this, and you must, too -
then that speaks volumes about the person saying that.
Unless you have a bunch of kids that would otherwise
starve, there is absolutely no reason to put up with
it.

[1] http://user.it.uu.se/~embe8573/about/degree/x.pdf
(check out the ToC for interface stuff)

-- 
underground experts united


       reply	other threads:[~2014-11-07  1:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <mailman.11982.1414182986.1147.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2014-11-07  1:09 ` Emanuel Berg [this message]
2014-11-07 10:21   ` Ways to use Emacs when programming C++ with Visual Studio? Thorsten Jolitz
     [not found]   ` <mailman.13103.1415355713.1147.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2014-11-10  0:51     ` 3246251196ryan
2014-11-10 10:43       ` Thorsten Jolitz
     [not found]       ` <mailman.13369.1415616253.1147.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2014-11-11 14:28         ` 3246251196ryan
2014-11-24 23:00   ` Ken Goldman
     [not found]   ` <mailman.14499.1416870041.1147.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2014-11-25 23:40     ` Mike
2014-11-26 14:55       ` Ken Goldman
2014-12-02 20:50         ` Robert Thorpe
2014-12-02 20:54           ` Óscar Fuentes
     [not found]       ` <mailman.14674.1417013766.1147.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2014-11-26 21:54         ` mflynn
2014-10-24 20:35 Thorsten Jolitz
2014-10-26  2:47 ` Óscar Fuentes
2014-10-27  8:41   ` Thorsten Jolitz

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