From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Pascal J. Bourguignon" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: member returns list Date: Sat, 12 Sep 2015 04:03:53 +0200 Organization: Informatimago Message-ID: <87r3m45r7a.fsf@kuiper.lan.informatimago.com> References: <87bndfauey.fsf@kuiper.lan.informatimago.com> <87wpw0e58f.fsf@robertthorpeconsulting.com> <87si6n822t.fsf@kuiper.lan.informatimago.com> <87oaha9a64.fsf@kuiper.lan.informatimago.com> <87twr1pycd.fsf@debian.uxu> <87zj0s5yc8.fsf@kuiper.lan.informatimago.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1442023537 5831 80.91.229.3 (12 Sep 2015 02:05:37 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 12 Sep 2015 02:05:37 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Sep 12 04:05:28 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ZaaBz-0003Oy-1h for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 12 Sep 2015 04:05:27 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:59207 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZaaBy-0008WT-Ad for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 11 Sep 2015 22:05:26 -0400 Original-Path: usenet.stanford.edu!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help Original-Lines: 29 Original-X-Trace: individual.net +FM5cbd+tet8JXngXKqbjAaT5vgG8mrFeRwxq7Rw3FUae9xXBF Cancel-Lock: sha1:MmI3M2M4NmI1ZTM2YjkxODQ2NjllYTEzMjQyNDZhMzZiNzI5MmY0OQ== sha1:VOJ1K2hagdklpd6s5XzbB8NuqR0= Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwAQMAAABtzGvEAAAABlBMVEUAAAD///+l2Z/dAAAA oElEQVR4nK3OsRHCMAwF0O8YQufUNIQRGIAja9CxSA55AxZgFO4coMgYrEDDQZWPIlNAjwq9 033pbOBPtbXuB6PKNBn5gZkhGa86Z4x2wE67O+06WxGD/HCOGR0deY3f9Ijwwt7rNGNf6Oac l/GuZTF1wFGKiYYHKSFAkjIo1b6sCYS1sVmFhhhahKQssRjRT90ITWUk6vvK3RsPGs+M1RuR mV+hO/VvFAAAAABJRU5ErkJggg== X-Accept-Language: fr, es, en User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3 (gnu/linux) Original-Xref: usenet.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:214878 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:107163 Archived-At: Emanuel Berg writes: > "Pascal J. Bourguignon" > writes: > >> No Smalltalk -> no lisa -> no Macintosh -> no >> MS-Windows and no NeXTSTEP (Apple would be dead by >> now) -> MacOSX -> no iPad/iPhone. >> >> No Java -> no Android. >> >> Imagine if the bitmap displays were only used on >> high end workstations for scientific data >> representation, and in low-end PC for games. >> >> Most PC would still work with text screens. > > Did Smalltalk have any positive consequences as well? Also, I didn't show the transitivities, but: No Smalltalk -> no Objective-C -> no NeXTSTEP No Lisp -> no Interface Builder -> no NeXTSTEP No NeXTSTEP -> no MacOSX -> no iOS -> no iPad/iPhone. -- __Pascal Bourguignon__ http://www.informatimago.com/ “The factory of the future will have only two employees, a man and a dog. The man will be there to feed the dog. The dog will be there to keep the man from touching the equipment.” -- Carl Bass CEO Autodesk