From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: no to war in Ukraine Date: Tue, 01 Mar 2022 10:22:41 +0100 Message-ID: <87r17myqla.fsf@zoho.eu> References: <87ee3p4xn4.fsf@zoho.eu> <44446637.PyEFFFD7HL@galex-713.eu> Reply-To: Emanuel Berg Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="39575"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Cancel-Lock: sha1:LCwfsm6sAsnhQww4U4qt5j+Phzw= Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Mar 01 10:25:40 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1nOylI-000A6f-M4 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 01 Mar 2022 10:25:40 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:37770 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nOylH-00031n-KC for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 01 Mar 2022 04:25:39 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:38042) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nOyij-0002xg-BN for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 01 Mar 2022 04:23:01 -0500 Original-Received: from ciao.gmane.io ([116.202.254.214]:60862) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nOyih-00029X-7P for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 01 Mar 2022 04:23:00 -0500 Original-Received: from list by ciao.gmane.io with local (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1nOyiW-00068v-Ad for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 01 Mar 2022 10:22:48 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Mail-Copies-To: never Received-SPF: pass client-ip=116.202.254.214; envelope-from=geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; helo=ciao.gmane.io X-Spam_score_int: -16 X-Spam_score: -1.7 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.7 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.249, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:136295 Archived-At: Richard Stallman wrote: > The list help-gnu-emacs is meant for asking for help on GNU > Emacs. This isn't the right place to discuss other issues, > even other free software issues -- much less global > political issues such as Putin's war against Ukraine. OK, but have the FOSS bodies been getting together offering a joint statement perhaps or something to the extent of speaking up against this aggression which whatever political mumbo-jumbo one can put together will still amount to immeasurable human suffering? The whole world is trying to isolate Putin, so we should to. And if one can't do that in a clever way that actually gets to the regime, which admittedly is very difficult to do, then just say it is wrong. That is not meaningless, it is part of the power of ideas. -- underground experts united https://dataswamp.org/~incal