From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Emanuel Berg Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Native compilation by default? (was: Re: stats say SBCL is 78 875 % faster than natively compiled Elisp) Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2023 02:05:46 +0100 Message-ID: <87r0udz15h.fsf@dataswamp.org> References: <87o7pq21i4.fsf@dataswamp.org> <87ilfy20jf.fsf@dataswamp.org> <83pma6yahj.fsf@gnu.org> <87fsb21z1n.fsf@dataswamp.org> <83ilfyxiw6.fsf@gnu.org> <83k00btcsl.fsf@gnu.org> <871qmj7z9e.fsf@dataswamp.org> <87k00abqxs.fsf_-_@dataswamp.org> <87sfewek2d.fsf@dataswamp.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="14885"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Cancel-Lock: sha1:BpDiWuy6EseD7UqCkN31glHUJ6g= Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Feb 27 09:20:39 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1pWYkR-0003eS-8F for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 27 Feb 2023 09:20:39 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pWWv4-0007bO-3k; Mon, 27 Feb 2023 01:23:30 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pW5UD-0006C8-Oe for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 25 Feb 2023 20:05:57 -0500 Original-Received: from ciao.gmane.io ([116.202.254.214]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pW5UC-0002v7-33 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 25 Feb 2023 20:05:57 -0500 Original-Received: from list by ciao.gmane.io with local (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1pW5UA-0008Sq-5k for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 26 Feb 2023 02:05:54 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Mail-Copies-To: never Received-SPF: pass client-ip=116.202.254.214; envelope-from=geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; helo=ciao.gmane.io X-Spam_score_int: -15 X-Spam_score: -1.6 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.6 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.25, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 27 Feb 2023 01:23:26 -0500 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:142861 Archived-At: Jean Louis wrote: >> Anyway these stats speak their own language - again 78 875 % - >> and that also means there should be no reason why the >> Jenovah Project can't be re-initiated based on these >> new premises? >> >> Maybe the model should be modernized from a practical POV - >> but I mean in theory - because if it means the foundation >> can be re-asserted, there should be no reasons in terms of >> technology not to persue it, right? > > I got one thing, that I don't get it. It had to do with replicating certain items, affectionally called artefacts, related to the origin of humanity. The dangers were absolutely exaggerated but so was my reputation for "pushing the envelope" recklessly ... -- underground experts united https://dataswamp.org/~incal