From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: jidanni@jidanni.org Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help,gmane.linux.debian.devel.general,gmane.linux.debian.devel.emacsen Subject: Re: emacs on a text console - please help me overcome the shock Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2011 09:14:15 +0800 Message-ID: <87pqjxoro8.fsf@jidanni.org> References: <20110823005230.GK9940@kenyonralph.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1314062075 30066 80.91.229.12 (23 Aug 2011 01:14:35 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2011 01:14:35 +0000 (UTC) Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, debian-emacsen@lists.debian.org, 633652@bugs.debian.org To: debian-devel@lists.debian.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Aug 23 03:14:31 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QvfZU-0000Eq-1W for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 23 Aug 2011 03:14:28 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:51698 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QvfZT-0007fs-Ip for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 22 Aug 2011 21:14:27 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:41146) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QvfZO-0007fP-Cm for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 22 Aug 2011 21:14:23 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QvfZN-0002Ly-3F for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 22 Aug 2011 21:14:22 -0400 Original-Received: from mailbigip.dreamhost.com ([208.97.132.5]:48532 helo=homiemail-a4.g.dreamhost.com) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QvfZM-0002Li-Pp for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 22 Aug 2011 21:14:21 -0400 Original-Received: from homiemail-a4.g.dreamhost.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by homiemail-a4.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14B8951C063; Mon, 22 Aug 2011 18:14:19 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=jidanni.org; h=from:to:cc:subject :references:date:message-id:mime-version:content-type; q=dns; s= jidanni.org; b=YTfTssCArSBZts6ybXOX+9PBzaZ/b6jnlmIEQPD+0h2zpHFYj vTg3xHgZKznaYbsItxFxX4fvGSUQwMryAq6xiWnICw5VVR8STd0F9WYwgJoNY5J0 NidLdCp1+LYgcoy1LFKpLJdpLYG9r7e5OB1s/uH1v25ISxrNrzu3TPk5SE= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=jidanni.org; h=from:to:cc :subject:references:date:message-id:mime-version:content-type; s=jidanni.org; bh=aeoWY5LnJf1wjPs1G6pvdrBdTcQ=; b=ioS29a29G3WLK S5SXgakvscFfqp3xMW/C9NxRmW0XcPrQDsdyGRlsgfNbXtZ1spUkdT277rekqJh3 aGdVkYqpI9e3fWg5KEzYW1Lta6i853u3feHTtLZ9N9VEpNdV6BBYOqKrd7DeRgW2 oLDRN0QmtkpGU61nUr2gEboiAkspvo= Original-Received: from jidanni.org (218-163-1-251.dynamic.hinet.net [218.163.1.251]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: jidanni@jidanni.org) by homiemail-a4.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 93FB551C062; Mon, 22 Aug 2011 18:14:18 -0700 (PDT) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 208.97.132.5 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:82018 gmane.linux.debian.devel.general:164771 gmane.linux.debian.devel.emacsen:2695 Archived-At: >>>>> "KR" == Kenyon Ralph writes: KR> I use emacs under X to administer my Debian systems. I don't run it as KR> root though. I use emacs TRAMP to use sudo to edit files as root on KR> the local machine. On remote machines I do the same but in an ssh KR> session in xterm (I don't use mouse or menu bars in emacs in X KR> anyway). I'm a safe sex fan myself, however there are limits to how much I am willing to sacrifice that raw feel. KR> Looking at bug 633652, have you tried running X programs as root with KR> sux or gksu instead of su? http://packages.debian.org/squeeze/sux KR> http://packages.debian.org/squeeze/gksu Mmmm, sounds kinky, but at my age I don't think we can teach this old dog new tricks. But I suppose that's what the younger generation will use and just mark this bug wontfix. Alas, no family values.