From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Emanuel Berg Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Gnus + emacs.stackexchange Date: Wed, 06 May 2015 21:31:11 +0200 Organization: Aioe.org NNTP Server Message-ID: <87pp6d7bb4.fsf@debian.uxu> References: <87fv7hoxnd.fsf@debian.uxu> <87mw1luz3o.fsf_-_@debian.uxu> <87a8xjpxdh.fsf@gmail.com> <87ioc61r9c.fsf@debian.uxu> <87twvq82ou.fsf@lifelogs.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1430940624 9881 80.91.229.3 (6 May 2015 19:30:24 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 6 May 2015 19:30:24 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed May 06 21:30:20 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Yq51Q-0003sR-0L for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 06 May 2015 21:30:20 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:46887 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Yq51P-0006LV-EF for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 06 May 2015 15:30:19 -0400 Original-Path: usenet.stanford.edu!news.kjsl.com!feeder.erje.net!1.eu.feeder.erje.net!news.etla.org!aioe.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help Original-Lines: 56 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: feB02bRejf23rfBm51Mt7Q.user.speranza.aioe.org Original-X-Complaints-To: abuse@aioe.org User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.4 (gnu/linux) X-Notice: Filtered by postfilter v. 0.8.2 Cancel-Lock: sha1:CEte+ZOc1kGnh2jcGwA2y112Sxo= Mail-Copies-To: never Original-Xref: usenet.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:211963 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:104247 Archived-At: Ted Zlatanov writes: > I've suggested it, but it's incredibly complicated > to make a generic solution for posting to a comment > feed. Gwene would have to support potentially > hundreds of comment feed formats; the formatting and > other things would be broken. Formatting isn't anything to be concerned with. If one wants the supposedly "modern" features just use the real thing. The idea of using Gnus would be to have the familiar interface, and not trying to replicate what we already have elsewhere (and don't like). I.e., bypassing the interface to get what we *do* like (sometimes), which is the contents of the blogs (including the comments), and to be able to use it ourselves, only in our ways. As for the hundreds of feed formats, are there really that many? Even so, not all need to be covered! When there are 100 meals in a restaurant, I think the ten most popular make up for 90% of what people buy, and the same principle probably holds if those ten were compared "internally" as well. Also, it is possible that some feed format is more popular within what typically interests the Gnus people, than if the whole blog world is considered. Besides, just doing it *once* (the most popular comment feed format) would be interesting because it would show it is possible and how nice it would be. >From then on, the wheels are in motion. It is just like the Linux kernel which is now ported to all hardware no matter how goofy and obscure. No one thought of doing that day one. > Even just for SX sites it would be very difficult to > make a NNTP-to-SX gateway without the active > participation and commitment of the people who write > and maintain those sites' software. Most sites > nowadays make it hard to post mechanically on > purpose since the potential for abuse is very high. Indeed, the participation would be needed. So start with the Emacs SX! But the sx.el people already did it (tho I didn't got it to work myself). But because they already did it (not NNTP perhaps but something to the extent of what we discuss) I'd say the "all-in", nested thread post/comments blog idea is more interesting and beneficial to the Gnusers around the world... -- underground experts united http://user.it.uu.se/~embe8573