From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Tomas Hlavaty Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: How users start programming in Emacs Lisp... Date: Sun, 30 May 2021 16:44:40 +0200 Message-ID: <87pmx8p9gn.fsf@logand.com> References: <878s3xpab1.fsf@zoho.eu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="1056"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" To: help-gnu-emacs Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun May 30 16:45:20 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1lnMgp-000Aec-HD for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 30 May 2021 16:45:19 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:54028 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lnMgo-00085f-6V for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 30 May 2021 10:45:18 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:35538) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lnMgQ-00085S-Qp for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 30 May 2021 10:44:54 -0400 Original-Received: from logand.com ([37.48.87.44]:46566) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lnMgP-0002t5-5A for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 30 May 2021 10:44:54 -0400 Original-Received: by logand.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id CDE2E19E7BD; Sun, 30 May 2021 16:44:41 +0200 (CEST) X-Mailer: emacs 27.1 (via feedmail 11-beta-1 I) In-Reply-To: Received-SPF: pass client-ip=37.48.87.44; envelope-from=tom@logand.com; helo=logand.com X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.9 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:130328 Archived-At: On Sun 30 May 2021 at 13:43, Arthur Miller wrote: > Or maybe your eev already does that. Still didn't try it. It seems so > conceptually big to me so I never get to it. I can only recommend eev. It is one of the best ideas I've seen recently. Some things are hard to get into, but getting started with eev-beginner is not that difficult. My executable notes are now eepitch blocks and I find it much better and way simpler than anything org-mode. Some things could be improved but it is not hard to redefine a few functions. The biggest issue I have with eepitch is that it uses non-printable character as a marker which does not tunnel through many protocols; for example notice how the example in the email from Eduardo has the eepitch block stripped.