From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Manuel Giraud Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Dired command on same host Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2022 19:23:49 +0100 Message-ID: <87pmp6kpmy.fsf@elite.giraud> References: <877dbf94su.fsf@elite.giraud> <87czl77j7e.fsf@gmx.de> <87iluz79ja.fsf@elite.giraud> <878rvv73mr.fsf@gmx.de> <87k0ffp9mp.fsf@gnu.org> <874k6i79of.fsf@gmx.de> <87lezu5o9a.fsf@elite.giraud> <87mtka5jvz.fsf@gmx.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="24249"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (berkeley-unix) Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, Tassilo Horn To: Michael Albinus Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Jan 05 19:24:43 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1n5Axl-000633-O8 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 05 Jan 2022 19:24:41 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:58040 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n5Axk-0007fG-0H for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 05 Jan 2022 13:24:40 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:41694) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n5Ax6-0007f6-Hz for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 05 Jan 2022 13:24:00 -0500 Original-Received: from ledu-giraud.fr ([51.159.28.247]:1333) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n5Ax4-0007JK-G7; Wed, 05 Jan 2022 13:24:00 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; s=rsa; bh=1SCHgliTi4Kk4xoy zjvKi31D5LU6SntFmwsrC+PzcfQ=; h=in-reply-to:date:references:subject: cc:to:from; d=ledu-giraud.fr; b=XmKDXCJ3fcI/edjcXoxmmSLEdQHfGG1ZxSgzze pOPVtndURNY/az91DriwEiKjyfNnhtK9/UFGk/kneUcedLgcb5ZajeKAZlEEQUX3J9wsVy yiXaGrxbS7rxXQzfZBFkn2OWn+1xUVzTE3JbbHIvoDzYPDUNtKC+9+iljPFy/Al3vgUqDs zbIYI6DJrur8QJcU55KxuQXWiMJFHO9/0jxTAI4UV4LoM3dZj34eg6tRa1WvJ7I6oLbyiQ O9IW9lUQH5jKo9RB0jH1398dHpYBjuvF3CBvRxrzeECr8Uz0MrnWNs6RxUD8ODOXJVEUYr tG++nkjz8ok7Ck5pc/E6cCfw== Original-Received: from elite.giraud ( [10.1.1.1]) by ledu-giraud.fr (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTPSA id 049f3cdd (TLSv1.3:AEAD-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256:NO); Wed, 5 Jan 2022 19:23:51 +0100 (CET) In-Reply-To: <87mtka5jvz.fsf@gmx.de> (Michael Albinus's message of "Wed, 05 Jan 2022 15:37:04 +0100") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=51.159.28.247; envelope-from=manuel@ledu-giraud.fr; helo=ledu-giraud.fr X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:135113 Archived-At: Michael Albinus writes: > Likely, you're using an older scp version. This behavior has changed in > OpenSSH 8.7, see : > > * scp(1): this release changes the behaviour of remote to remote > copies (e.g. "scp host-a:/path host-b:") to transfer through the > local host by default. This was previously available via the -3 > flag. This mode avoids the need to expose credentials on the > origin hop, avoids triplicate interpretation of filenames by the > shell (by the local system, the copy origin and the destination) > and, in conjunction with the SFTP support for scp(1) mentioned > below, allows use of all authentication methods to the remote > hosts (previously, only non-interactive methods could be used). > A -R flag has been added to select the old behaviour. > > So Tramp needs even more checks in order to detect what scp supports. No I'm using OpenSSH_8.8 (ssh -V) and I think the implicict '-3' is still there. It is just that it does not seem to use a temporary file in /tmp. -- Manuel Giraud