From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Emanuel Berg <incal@dataswamp.org> Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Why is `pop' not named `npop'? Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2024 02:54:44 +0100 Message-ID: <87ply0n2qj.fsf@dataswamp.org> References: <87mst5yk6n.fsf@mbork.pl> <8734uxhk1e.fsf@posteo.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="12808"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Cancel-Lock: sha1:zWaKgfqMEzmhaR1VgTakazkpZ3s= Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Jan 17 11:53:52 2024 Return-path: <help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org> Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from <help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org>) id 1rQ3YO-00039m-6l for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 17 Jan 2024 11:53:52 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from <help-gnu-emacs-bounces@gnu.org>) id 1rQ3Xa-0007Ez-Og; Wed, 17 Jan 2024 05:53:03 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from <geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org>) id 1rPv8t-0006CZ-FN for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 16 Jan 2024 20:54:59 -0500 Original-Received: from ciao.gmane.io ([116.202.254.214]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from <geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org>) id 1rPv8p-0003bM-5F for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 16 Jan 2024 20:54:56 -0500 Original-Received: from list by ciao.gmane.io with local (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from <geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org>) id 1rPv8m-0005VD-1G for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 17 Jan 2024 02:54:52 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Mail-Copies-To: never Received-SPF: pass client-ip=116.202.254.214; envelope-from=geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; helo=ciao.gmane.io X-Spam_score_int: -16 X-Spam_score: -1.7 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.7 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.249, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 17 Jan 2024 05:53:02 -0500 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor <help-gnu-emacs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/options/help-gnu-emacs>, <mailto:help-gnu-emacs-request@gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/help-gnu-emacs> List-Post: <mailto:help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:help-gnu-emacs-request@gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/help-gnu-emacs>, <mailto:help-gnu-emacs-request@gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:145744 Archived-At: <http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.help/145744> Philip Kaludercic wrote: >> the `pop' macro is destructive. Why isn't it called `npop' >> then? [...] > > Not every name is consistent They sure ain't. And "n" can also be for "not", e.g. `nlistp'. So not pop, what would that be? Rock? > but there is also no need for a non-destructive pop since we > already have car. But shouldn't `pop' be called "ncar" then? -- underground experts united https://dataswamp.org/~incal