From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: floyd@barrow.com (Floyd L. Davidson) Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Making Emacs more newbie friendly Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 04:01:35 -0900 Organization: __________ Message-ID: <87oede4gk0.fld@barrow.com> References: <874qf8d3cy.fsf@thalassa.informatimago.com> <874qf7zlk5.fsf@thalassa.informatimago.com> <87mzszxlc1.fsf@thalassa.informatimago.com> <01c52d06$Blat.v2.4$afb8ba60@zahav.net.il> <16957.15707.79279.253809@mail.eng.it> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1111325508 1841 80.91.229.2 (20 Mar 2005 13:31:48 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 13:31:48 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Mar 20 14:31:48 2005 Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DD0VU-00064D-E0 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 14:30:16 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DD0mN-0004hk-3I for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 08:47:43 -0500 Original-Path: shelby.stanford.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!sn-xit-03!sn-xit-08!sn-post-02!sn-post-01!supernews.com!corp.supernews.com!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help User-Agent: gnus 5.10.6/XEmacs 21.4.15/Linux 2.6.5 Cancel-Lock: sha1:6z/1E2Np+T4EziPdAdVlxVE1BIU= Original-X-Complaints-To: abuse@supernews.com Original-Lines: 27 Original-Xref: shelby.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:129477 Original-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org X-MailScanner-To: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:25032 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.help:25032 nfreimann wrote: >Gian Uberto Lauri wrote: > >>Those are things a newbie can't imagine, being trapped in the CUA >>interface and its limited power... >> >> >there is no future for anything else than full CUA compability >and GUI dialogs for everything. The older people, still familar >with the old X11 emacs, are dying out. I'm almost 60 years old, >a emacs user since '87. emacs must become a much improved >gedit. It must become the free alternative to Slickedit, a >famous $299.00 editor once developed out of emacs sources. Why must it become any of those things? "GUI dialogs for everything"??? Why? How about only for things where it is appropriate? (I'm sure there are some, though I can't think of any offhand.) I think it was David Kastrup who mentioned that a lot of effort is put into continuing to make Emacs comfortable for good touch typists. That goal has a lot of merit. -- Floyd L. Davidson Ukpeagvik (Barrow, Alaska) floyd@barrow.com